March 25, 2004
Lost "castle" found in bakery
News from Ireland, via the BBC:
Excited archaeologists in Newry have been given a grant to bring Bagenal Castle back to its former glory. The 12th Century building was hidden under a former bakery in the County Down city. The former Cistercian Abbey was converted into a castle in the 16th Century during the Plantation. . ."The museum curator and the state archaeologist were invited in by the McCann Bakery owners when they were closing down in 1996 to look at some stone carvings on their walls. They came into this labyrinth of an industrial site - lean-to, upon lean-to, upon lean-to, which had built up over the years. Right in the heart were these stone carvings. . . "
Posted by David on March 25, 2004 4:12 PM
Under a bakery - fitting:
"The McCanns were actually tenants of the Needhams and one of the stipulations of the tenancy was that every October they had to bring a cake to Mourne Park to give to the Needhams and then get a rebate on their rent."
Posted by: John Anderson, RI USA on March 29, 2004 10:14 AM
Some people really ought to get a grip of reality regarding this building and all are advised to do some real research regarding this unrecorded supposed lost castle. What is really happening at this site is no different than what has happened over the past 500 years, its real identity was saved in or around the early years of the 17th cent, by a failed attempt to remove it by an english adventurer named bagenal,name was that of Bagnoll,who tried hood winking the Queen of England into believing he was building a new castle, he sent her a drawing which had abbot creely's name on it,he was the last abbot of newry & who was eventually hung. The abbots name cleary seen today has scribbles through it , Mr Bagenals name is written underneath it, the Queen is recorded historically as refusing his reques. My battle continues to restore the real identity of this site which is the abbey of newry 1153, the building in question is actually the choir of the Abbots blessed virgin mary Chapel. Newry was founded in 1153 by Maurice MacLoughlin, king of Ireland, and was colonised by monks from Mellifont . The abbey was dedicated to the Blessed Virgin, St. Patrick and St. Benedict. Finan O’Gorman, abbot of Newry, succeeded O’Dubhin (d. 1148) as bishop of Kildare and assisted in the synod of 1152. Based on this evidence it has been suggested that there may have been an earlier monastery at Newry, which did not become Cistercian until 1153. However, this argument has been refuted by Stalley who believes that the dedication to St. Benedict has misled some scholars. The Latin name of the abbey, Viride Lignum, meaning ‘the green tree’, was derived from a yew tree which was said to have been planted by St. Patrick himself. In 1162 the abbey library and the yew tree were destroyed by fire. In 1215-16 the abbot was threatened with deposition for not attending the Cistercian General Chapter and in 1227 the abbot was deposed for participating in the ‘conspiracy of Mellifont’. In 1536 abbot John of Newry conducted a visitation of Holycross Abbey and was extremely critical of what he found. He drew up a list of nine regulations to be closely followed in the future, some concerning the conduct of services, others the moral behaviour of the monks. These are regarded as a valuable insight into the daily life of an Irish Cistercian monastery on the eve of Dissolution. Most monks in Newy were hung or dissapeared. Bagenall was simply called an undertaker. http://cistercians.shef.ac.uk/abbeys/newry.php . www.newryabbey.com
Posted by: oliver curran on April 5, 2006 2:23 PM