June 8, 2003

Nefertiti found?

British archeologists . . . are confident a tattered mummy found in a tomb in the Valley of the Kings is probably Queen Nefertiti, stepmother of the boy king Tutankhamun and one of the most powerful women in ancient Egypt.

The conclusion has been made after 12 years of research, using clues such as fragments of a wig and the piercing of the mummy’s ears. The breakthrough came after the Egyptian authorities allowed the 3,500-year-old body to be examined in detail for the first time. Under a pile of ancient linen, archeologists found a broken-off arm bent in a way that was permitted only if the dead person was a pharaoh or queen . . .

The mummy was originally found with two others by a French team in 1898. It was walled up in a side chamber of the tomb of King Amenhotep II. The body’s poor condition meant it drew little attention. It was photographed only once, in 1907, before the chamber was walled up again. Since then it has been known simply as “the younger woman”.

From the Sunday Times; also reprinted here.

NOTE: This is also the cover story of the Sunday Times Magazine, for those of you with access (hint: the site is free to those in the UK, or those using a UK proxy server). The story will be continued next Sunday, and will be the subject of a Discovery Channel special later this year.

UPDATE: Here's the Discovery News link, with photos. The television special will be August 17.

AND NOW the identification is being contested:

Zahi Hawaas, secretary general of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities, said any similarity between the mummy's face and Nefertiti's statue isn't worthy evidence because during the period when the queen lived ''art was idealistic and not realistic.'' ''This is not a good evidence at all, this is just a theory,'' Hawaas said. He said X-rays of the mummy have shown it to belong to a 16-year-old, whereas Nefertiti is thought to have died in her 30s.

Other Egyptologists have also said it will be very hard to prove the mummy belongs to Nefertiti. Fletcher ''is making a lot of assumptions. It is hard to prove this is Nefertiti,'' said Lisa Sabbahy, a professor of Egyptology at the American university in Cairo. She said that at the end Egyptian New Kingdom, many royal tombs were robbed. This prompted priests to collect all the mummies and put them in new coffins in other locations. During this process, a wig belonging to one mummy might have been put on another, she said. Other evidence, such as the double pierced earlobe and arm, simply proves that the mummy belonged to the royal family, Sabbahy said.

She said a DNA test used to compare unknown mummies to those belonging to identified members of the royal family also would not help because Nefertiti came from outside the royal family.

Posted by David on June 8, 2003 1:55 PM

Comments

I was under the impression through extensive reading that one of the main differences between the religion of Aton (one God) and Amon was that Aton followers did not believe in perserving the body. In other words, they did not believe in mummification, but the "ashes to ashes, dust to dust" concept. Also, for a "foreign" Queen who was most influential in establishing Aton and of course, disliked greatly for doing so by the Amon priests....why would they make her into a mummy so she could partake of the "afterlife?" It would seem to me that once crushing in her face and chest, they would just discard the body so no one would be tempted to rejuvenate the Aton religion with a mummified figure (a 70 day laborious process)possibly serving as an icon if stolen or carted away. I don't belive they have found her husband, have they? This is just a thought, nothing more.

Posted by: L.B. Wittingham on August 4, 2003 10:58 AM

it seems rather interesting that this could be one of the most significant finds in history, even more interesting that people are prepared to rubbish it due to the fact that there is no conclusive evidence that this (nefertiti) is who they claim the body to be. Sure, the facts don't seem to add up, but it has definitly captured my attention, if you compare the face to the bust of Nefertiti they look almost identical - I know what Zahi Hawass wrote above about that not being the case, but that in itself doesn't say much, even professionals have been known to make mistakes, I have my own opinion.. (L.W.B)

Posted by: lamprey on August 28, 2003 4:28 AM

No offense to Zahi Hawass, but I can't see how the bust of Nefertiti can be "idealistic and not realistic" if you ask me, the bust looks pretty damn realistic to me! And when compared to the mummy in KV35 it's nearly identical, I find it very hard to understand why egyptologists (did I spell it right?)don't pool their resources together in determining if this wretched body is that of one of egypts most influental figures in history! Being an unsignificant New Zealander I must say, why the hell don't scientists focus on this find if it's so important, but noone really seems to give a f**k, I wonder why that is.. No DNA evidence maybe? Pull your thumb out and do some work!! And I recomend you listen to "what about us?" By Ministry when you get round to it! This could at least put something interesting in National Geographic etc and give us some decent shit to read other than crap like FHM or RALPH!

The facts are too coincidental when you think about it! The double piercing in the remaining ear, that's the 18th dynasty era, roughly the time that Nefertiti lived (ok, I'm a piss poor egyptologist, but I try!)also, priests from ancient times DID grab up all the remaining mummies and shove them in places the sun don't shine (no pun intended) so robbers couldn't get their greasy mitts on them, so that all the more reason that this mummy could be her royal highness of 3500 years ago, well maybe not, BUT the likness is damn near scarey! LOOK INTO IT, usually the most significant finds are right under your noses!!!

By saying this, I know it IS hard to prove without the help of DNA, but how did people ever prove shit back in the old days WITHOUT the help of DNA? Just hard work and dedication!

Good Luck Mr Hawass!

Posted by: Luke . B on August 30, 2003 2:24 AM

1st of all...I want to say GOOD LUCK to Mr Hawass..

For the first time I watched the "Nefertiti revealed" from the discovery channel I was so amazed. So keep up the GOOD WORK guys on searching the lost mummy of Nefertiti.

From,
Lina D 16yrs old,asian girl.. :)

Posted by: Lina on September 8, 2003 10:57 PM


I am amazed about all the information I saw in the Discovery channel about NEFERTITI RESSURECTED. I loved everyhting I saw plus I wanted to know more but I am still learning more by cheking out some web sites. So keep up the good work on Nefertiti's story!

Posted by: Diana Garcia on October 30, 2003 1:01 PM

Latest evidence...

It would seem that the latest DNA evidence for Ms. Fletcher's Nefertiti has confirmed that the body is that of a man! So, unless Nefertiti was really an egyptian drag queen... Nefertiti has NOT been found.
Ms. Fletcher's technique of starting with a conclusion and then collecting so-called evidence to back her claims is not good science.

.../Marc

Posted by: Marc Desbiens on January 14, 2004 10:24 AM

we have the mummified still born children of tut. still in storage in cairo. since children inherit their grandmothers dna. ie mytochondrial nucleus dna, simply compare that to dna from the alleged nefertiti mummy and you have the answer. dna was taken from the above mentioned mummies and scientist were able to extract dna and did have the dna sequence of nefertiti as a result. this was a featured segment on a pbs special entitled secrets of the dead if my memory is correct. the answer to this mystery is under the nose of dr. hawass and he should allow dna to be extracted from the alleged dna of the so-called nefertiti mummy and have it compared to the dna of the above mentioned still born infants mummies.

Posted by: walter williams on December 20, 2004 10:17 AM

i am an archaeological scientist who examines aDNA and have looked at both scientific and archaeological analysis of the 3 mummies found in the walled chamber of KV35, and would just like to briefly point out that due to many different reasons and probable contamination, the DNA results are not reliable. so the body may well be that of a woman, getting results of male DNA means little as gaining genetic information froma mummy this old and in such bad condition is damn near impossible. the possibility of this mummy being Nefertiti herself may be a romantic notion but also a likely possibility!

Posted by: Deb Tunney on January 7, 2005 12:16 PM

I've heared quite a few varying opinions now on the KV35 mummy being that of Nefertiti. Like a few others that posted, I watched the Discovery special, 'Nefertiti Resurected'. I thought Joanne Fletcher did a rather remarkable job gathering evidence to support her case. The amount of effort she put into the research, the experts she brought in to help formulate her hypothesis- (who were unbiased by Fletcher's personal opinion because she would tell no one who she thought the mummy was). And after one gathers THAT much "coincidental evidence", the 'Nefer beads', the double pierced ear, the age and gender (determined by the skeletal pelvic bone, which is contructed much diffently in men and women- for obvious reasons- and widens with age and childbirth in women), the computer facial reconstruction-- one HAS to realize that there could be more to this mummy than just sheer coincedence.
As Luke B. posted above, Fletcher did use hard work and dedication as was common in traditional egyptology.
And the DNA testing to Tutankamun's stillborn like Walter Williams posted above- though an absolutely wonderful idea- would unfortunately be irrelevant becase Nefertiti was Tut's stepmother, so there is no blood relation between her and Tut. (Though I do believe Tut was married to his sister, Akensenamun, a daughter of Nefertiti, maybe that could help..?)
In any case, I wouldn't be so quick to discredit Mr. Hawaas- he is still a very knowledgeable and respected egyptologist. When you consider the amount of crackpot theories he actually does encounter from 'wannabes' working with fragmented information (ie:pyramids built by aliens, Sphinx 5000 years older then original estimate due to rain errosion, etc.)- it's no wonder he's so skeptically stubborn and contradictory. With the right presentation of evidence, I'm sure even he will come around and look into the possibility of the KV35 mummy himself.

~My ten cents worth

Posted by: Victoria Williams on March 1, 2005 2:02 PM

if this is truly the mummy of nefirtiti they could do dna testing from the mummified female fetuses that were found in king tuts tomb (the fetuses are believed to be the offspring of king tut and his wife ancksunamun who was his step sister and queen nefertitis daughter)they could perform the dna test (not nuclear dna but the other one i can't think of the name right now but it is the dna passed only from mother to daughter)so if the fetus dna matched the dna of the mummy the case would be solved.

Posted by: katherine on July 9, 2005 1:09 AM

the bust & lady x are very similiar. & the scientists said that she could have been late twentys early thirties. I'm not saying lady-x is Nefertiti but the possibility is high. No one will know the truth unless they did some DNA testing but the egyptologists at the cairo museum refuse to, it could cause damage. I think we should! I have watched the documentary time and again and I need to know. It would be the greatest discovery of the 21st century. Thank you for listening.

Posted by: Alyssa Ottway on September 4, 2006 2:56 PM
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