I was scammed out of $2500.00 by an eBay seller and a phoney online escrow company, yesterday 2/12/03.

Beware the following:

Any seller that has no history
Usually selling big ticket items like Rolex
They never put a reserve up
Very few bids on the item (as most members are smarter then I.)
The description is usually vague with only one picture that was probabaly copied from another site. (Picture looks comercial not real)
The seller usually has been a member for a day or so before placing the item up for bid.
The seller will suggest and probably insist that he will pay for escrow and shipping and instruct you to go to a web site.
These web sites look very professional with drilldowns, rate calculators, links to title and insurance companies and a Western Union dealer locator on it.

IF YOU ENCOUNTER THIS PERSON OR A SITUATION LIKE THIS, PLEASE REPORT THEM TO EBAY AND THE NATIONAL FRAUD INFORMATION CENTER 800-876-7060. Also, please let me know so I can inform the authorities that I am working with. tsnme@cox.net

Also, I see two other items right now on ebay that match the exact M/O of these guys. I'm not going to mention these two, so as to not affect my efforts to catch this guy.

Please contact me with any information you may have.

Sorry to hear about your experience -- many of us are doubtful about eBay's commitment to rooting out fraud, especially when it is so easy to spot obvious scams there, yet so difficult to report them.

If you have any info on an escrow service called alianz-trader.com please let me know. How can one check an online escrow service?

I have at present a valuble item for sale on eBay and I have been contacted by a few people who have offered me more than I know the item is worth. On checking I discovered their elaborate web site escrow's were phoneys!!
I have suggested to them that I will only use the recognised sites on eBay.
How do I get a list of phoneys to protect myself.

Thanks
Hugh

I would suggest taking the "guilty until proven innocent" approach, rather than attempting to compile a list of fake escrow sites (which could never be definitive).

The response of using only eBay-approved sites seems a sound one.

Incidentally, be very wary of offers to buy outright, especially when the item is old or collectable. What may appear to be a very high offer may be quite the opposite once the dust has settled -- and don't be fooled by a seeming lack of bidder interest, since more and more serious buyers now bid only at the very last minute (myself included).

I had almost gone through a phony transaction but the red flag that was waved in front of me was the fact that they wouldn't fax the title of the vehicle I was buying. After trying to get some questions answered by the escrow company, which they never responded, I cancelled the deal.

I did a little research and found a site that is very usefull: http://www.sos4auctions.com/

You can put in the name of the escrow company and it will tell you whether or not it is legitimate. For example; www.online-escrow.com
Type that in and it will tell you it is a fraud. That happened to be the escrow company this person selling me the vehicle would only deal with.

Actually this is more of a question?I think I might have come close to getting scammed.Here is the link www.absolute-escrow.org I come very close to going through with this on a 9k item that retails at about 36k.Possibly could have been legit but seller is unverified on yahoo and agreed to pay shipping which is a red flag im guessing.Any info about this would be appreciated.

Shane, if you're still around, www.absolute-escrow.org looks to be a fraud.
If you go to www.fortis-escrow.com its an exact copy of that site, word for word and even the design is a near perfect match.

I went to www.sos4auctions.com and typed in www.fortis-escrow.com and they are considered legitimate. But there was nothing for www.absolute-escrow.org.

Also someone wanted to buy some very valuable computer hardware off of me at a price higher than what ebay was selling these items at. I didn't think much of it until the buyer refused to use escrow.com and instead tried to get me to sign up to madenat.com, which I never heard of.

What made me suspicious though, was that the website looked pretty shoddy and when I tried to register with them, I was surprised that there was no encryption whatsoever while I was signing up!

So instead I signed up with fake info to see how the site was set up and it was shoddy all around and had no encryption in sight, like there was at Paypal or escrow.com.

So I'm glad I stumbled on to this site as I didn't know that fake escrow site spoofing was so widespread.

I'm convinced this is a fraud site - www.escrowe.com, its changed nameservers in the last week, is a US company with a UK address and US server host. I almost lost a video camera but managed to get it sent back to me. Only found it one 1 site as shut down for being a fraud but then it sprung up 2 days later.

Hi
I was just about to go through a deal with a guy on e-bay were he was wanting to buy Car Audio Product that I had for Sale. He suggested that he send payment through escrow and suggested www.express-escrow.com I registered with the site and then sent the Guy a Total to send. I was about to ship goods but then realised that there was no contact details for this Express Escrow site, so how was I going to contact them if there was a problem.
I did some reaserch and found out that this was a fake site.

My Worry is that this site now has all my Details, User Name, Password, Address Telephone number etc, I have just changed all my Passwords and luckly I did not give them any card or Bank Information, my Worry is what they might do with the other details.

how can you look up to see if an escrow service is fake or not. i am to do a deal through a site called trading-safe.com but i know nothing about them.

Nearly fell for the Madena scam. Buyer wanted UPS delivery to Costa Mesa address and fortunately I used Fedex who tried to deliver but said it was a fake address and they were reporting it due to fears of fraud. I will ensure that the perpetrator regrets his attempted action.

I had the same thing! Guy wanted me to ship UPS to Costa Mesa. 180 Cabrillo St. Did a search on the address and found it to be an apartment complex but found that there were no reviews for it on apartment guide website and I also found a LIMOUSINE COMPANY operating out of one of the apartments! Fishy indeed! ITCHYSPOT was the ebay ID. Anyone else had dealings with this person?

The WHOIS on this site shows that the URL was pruchased on 10-30-03 and since then they have "thousands of transactions"? I don't think so! The ebay user above emailed me from juanielyx@aol.com and his user rating with Madena shows that he has had 99 transactions. He emailed me on 11-06-03 so in 6 days he's had 99 transactions? Again, I don't think so.

Used an escrow company, site looked legit, email was safe-online-transaction.com, purchased a 4 wheeler, they talk to me until the escrow recieve the money, guaranteed 5 working days that was on the 28 of Oct. now it it the 25 of Nov. with no 4 wheeler and loss of $2,425, trying to contact the company and the seller and no response back. Be careful, this looked like a good deal but now I am out a bike and 2,400 dollars

I am about to do a deal with someone and they suggested an escrow service called http://intelligent-traders.com/ and I need to know ASAP if this site is legit sos4auctions is down right now and I cannot check can anyone help me?

WWW.INTELLIGENT-TRADERS.COM IS A FRAUD, I ASKED THEM WHAT ARE THEIR METHODS OF PAYMENT AND THEY SENT ME INFORMATION FOR A WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER TO ENGLAND TO AN "AGENT" AND THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY WORKING IN GERMANY. DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS SITE AND THEY ARE PARTNERS WITH TRIPLETRADE.NET ALSO WHO WORKS IN ITALY.

The person I was dealing with from ebay is: ice_queen19 her e-mail address is ladydasel33@yahoo.com although she has 100% Positive feedback she is still a fraud and so is the site she recommended to use.

Nearly got fooled by an escrow service called trading-secure.net! Practically the same name as one advertised on e-bay. Registered in USA but stated they were in Dublin, Ireland.

BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE - www.trading-secure.net !!!!
I have indeed nearly been conned by www.trading-secure.net!!!!(very simialr name to the one recommended on ebay) Do not use the escrow sevices when offered - I was approached by a person via email offering me 3 times what my phone was worth and asked if I would end my ebay auction early - then when I accepted the offer they steered me to use the trading-secure escrow services (which unfortunately I did!!!) - then I sent the phone to italy as instructed by the escrow service - luckily I did not use the carrier company to that they specified and the carrier refused to deliver the parcel as the addressee was not present. - The addressee was infact not a real name of a person at all!!!
Please beware as I have been lucky and have been able to get the phone back thanks to the carrier.
The email address of the person who contacted me originally is: dumitru_m_f@hotmail.com
I hope this helps others before they are conned out of money or goods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was just about to send of a very exspencive item to a individual in california who offerd me way over the asking price if I ended my ebay auction early. He sounds realy dodgy, and insisted on escrow. Despite me asking him to use escrow.com he initiated the deal with www.word-escrow-trade.com. Do you guys know anything about this site, looks like the others mentioned here. I was just about to put the parcel in the post untill I read this articel.......

Polly - TRADING-SECURE.NET SCAM!! I too have fallen for the scam having sent an item to "Dumitru Mihai-Florin" (dmihaiflorin@hotmail.com). Looking back at it now it seems obvious, but these fake-escrow sites can be quite convincing, especially if you have not used escrow before. I feel like an idiot, but fortunately my carrier did not deliver until a "correct" address was given! So at least i'll get the item back to cover the carrier costs...!!! Lethal - to be safe avoid all escrow services.

was close to going through with a car purchase with the same scenerio as everyone else. Great price, offered to pay all the shipping costs etc., so that we were "both" protected, suggested we use the safeonlinedeals.com escrow service. Started doing some research about the company only to come to find it doesn't exist. This person was selling on carsdirect.com - claimed to have moved to the UK and couldn't afford the import fees, luxury tax etc. on his BMW. Thanks for the heads-up!

Beware!!! Beware!!! I sapposedly bought a product from Alessio Isabelle and received nothing.. I sent the money (1,000) via Western Union to safeonlinedeals.com
Their site is down. If anyone can help please reply to lgphalic@yahoo.com
I have been severly scammed

MASSIVE SCAM!!!
I too like a fool agreed a deal on Ebay to end it early and he would pay way over the asking price. His name.......Dumitru Mihai-Florin. (d_mihaiflorin@hotmail.com)!!!
Lucky for me my deal fell throw where i was too slow to reply to him and i never sent the item off. This person should be caught and reported. He also tried to get me to use "Trading-secure.net". NO-ONE USE THIS SITE.

There's a really good website with lots of information about these fake fraud bogus escrow sites.

http://www.carbuyingtips.com/fraud.htm

If you get approached to use an unknown escrow and it's thru an auction site, don't do it.
Don't even consider the amount of feeback the ID has. They use hijacked accounts!
Report them to the auction site.

There's also another eye opening board some of you might want to check out.
http://pub135.ezboard.com/bauctionnewsall

There's a few more things I'd like to add to my post above.
If you've sent an item only to discover that you've been scammed, you may be able to RECALL your package if you've used Fedex or UPS.
They offer that service and some people have been successful in getting their items back.
If you sent money to them thru Western Union, call them immediately and try and stop the payment.
If they had you do a bank to bank wire transfer, call that bank immediately!
If it's a USA bank, have them file a suspicious activity report.
That will get the Fed's involved.
Some of these crooks hire people to move the money from a USA bank to another bank off-shore.
They don't know they're involved in money laundering.
File complaints with the webhosts and the domain name registrars.
Get them shut down.
Tell everyone you know about these scam escrow services.
File a complaint with the FBI.
Don't worry about what country you're in.
They'll accept your complaint and send the info to the appropriate law enforcement agencies.
They work with law enforcement from other countries.

The FBI Internet Fraud Unit:
http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

I am encountering this possibility as we speak. BMW motorcycle, impecable condition, pulled off e bay as soon as I showed interest. Promptly recommended escrow....both individuals numbers and escrow service only have answering machines yet this guy keeps in touch with e mails only late afternoons, claims to be located in Az

please see my previous post, looking shakier and shakier..name of escrow is absolute escrow .com supposed to be a company in the netherlands. No security on site, seller keeps pushing to use in fact he is offering to provide their banking information to close deal so he can ship

Now they are giving me a bank routing number and account number for Britton & Koontz First National bank in Natchez Ms, They are also saying that funds have to be transferred in next 48 hours.
How do I know if this is legit. Account is supposedly set up in the name of Absolute Escrow Service and e mails are signed by Sales Manage John Tyler
What do I do?

bank advises they never heard of Absolute Escrow Service..makes this decision easy

I am dealing with a seller who wants to use a site called www.onlinesafetrading.com. Any info on them here is there response when I told them that I would rather Bank Wire instead of Western Union:

Dear member,

We are a trusted and secure company, we are using Western Union payment
method only for small payments to speed up the process, like you know
Western Union is a very fast way to wire money online and require maximum 1
working day to confirm the payment, if bank transfer is used for payments
that are from 100$ - 3500$ then will be a 4-5 business days to confirm the
payment into any bank account, comparing to Western Union that will take
only one day. There are many companies that also use Western Union, please
understand that we trying to offer to the buyer/seller the best services
available for the moment.

Thank you for your patience.

onlinesafetrading Inc,
Support Team
http://www.onlinesafetrading.net
Support - support@onlinesafetrading.net
Informations - info@onlinesafetrading.net
Accounting - accounting@onlinesafetrading.net

I have checked up on www.pr1-trd.com , and they seem certain to be fraudulent. Their website uses exactly the same text content as http://madenat.com who I know to be fraudulent. I have run a "Whois" check on their domain, and the results are below:

Domain Name.......... pr1-trd.com
Creation Date........ 2004-02-01
Registration Date.... 2004-02-01
Expiry Date.......... 2005-02-01
Organisation Name.... PR1
Organisation Address. 4927 Cave Run Drive
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Missouri City
Organisation Address. 77459
Organisation Address. TX
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Tatum Sheffield
Admin Address........ 4927 Cave Run Drive
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Missouri City
Admin Address........ 77459
Admin Address........ TX
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... stephstratos@msn.com
Admin Phone.......... 2817987985
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ XO Communications, Inc.
Tech Address......... 4800 Concentric Boulevard
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Saginaw
Tech Address......... 48604
Tech Address......... MI
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... hostmaster@cnchost.com
Tech Phone........... +1.8885756398
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... NS1.CNCHOST.COM
Name Server.......... NS2.CNCHOST.COM

The "Whois" results don't exactly match up with their supposed business address of
Rue de la Vierge Noire 3 c
B 1000 Bruxelles
Belgium

Do they?

I have looked up the Brussells postal address, and I came up with: le Ministère des Affaires sociales, rue de la Vierge noire 3 C, à 1000 BRUXELLES. Again, doesn't quite match up does it?

Also, the domain seems to have been registered only 8 days ago (or 1month and 7 days... not sure if it is American dating). This makes it unlikely that they might have dealt with "thousands" of transactions, don't you think?

I have found a number of other fake Escrow sites that use the same format and syntax:

http://www.spess.net/faq.php, http://nyc-trade.com/faq.php, http://bids-escrow.com/faq.php, http://www.bbbsafe.net/faq.php, http://commerce-hub.biz/faq.asp and there are many more out there it seems!

You should particularly check out this link: http://www.commercialappealscommission.bc.ca/CAC-0022.html.

It seems someone has already tried to shut down one of these sites.

These people are scum. They should all be shut down.

Yes, another ebay seller tried to get me using www.trading-secure.net and i was suspicious because he said he was in Greece and his previous sales were in Sydney Australia. He is an Australia registered seller ebay id: sunshine*angel. Email is sunshineangels69@aol.com andhis name is Mat Ando. BEWARE!!!!

www.trading-secure.net is a FAKE.

Yes, as it seems there are a lot of fraudulent people out there is trying to scam money of others by offer deals to good too be true. And yes I, mysefl also got fooled by these people.

A seller in E-bay offered me a deal through e-mail:

Hello and greetings from Athens, Greece!

The phones are brand new, and they come with 2 years international warranty from Samsung. This means you can get the warranty in any country in the world. They are also unlocked so you can use them on any network. The phones come in their original boxes with all original accesories. If you will buy all 12 of them I will sell them to you for AU 3,000 (Australian Dollars) and I will pay the shipping charges.
I want to close a safe deal through www.trading-secure.net. We will start a transaction, you will send the money to them and I will send the phones to you. When you receive the phones you are allowed to inspect them for 2 to 30 days. If you are happy with the phones and decide to keep them you will tell www.trading-secure.net to release the money to me. If not you will return the phones to me and you will get your money back from trading-secure.
Thank you and please let me know as soon as you are ready to buy the phones!

Eric G. Burrows

His e-mail addres is ericgb6@aol.com, same as sunshineangels69@aol.com, and it turned out to be a faked, and I was out of pocket $3000AUD so watch out people. Dont be fool.

Who can I contact or report the fraudulent active?

Madena-Escrow professional escrowing services is a Fake, And Id like to thank the people who have used this web-site for giving me a final warning on what already seemed to be a suspcious deal. These people caught up to me on Cycletrader.com sell a 2003 sportbike for half price, when the day came to pay I search all the business listing I could find to no-success. Beware everyone and thx again I almost threw away $3200

EVERYONE IS SUSPECT DO NOT USE ANY ESCROW SITE

Hi, has anyone heard of www.escroe-secure.net? I had a laptop for sale on e-bay and a buyer offered to buy it. They suggested I use www.escrow-secure.net. I have my doubts about this site. Can anyone help? They want me to ship the item to the buyer asap! I checked the BBB and other places and they have no info on the site. I think I will hold off on shipping out my laptop. This is the e-mail escrow-secure.net sent me saying the buyer had transferred funds!

Dear Customer,

Funds have been transferred. You may start shipping out.

Transaction number #4441

www.Escrow-secure.net

We recommend:
UPS www.ups.com
USPS www.usps.com

Thank you very much for using our service.

If you have any difficulty registering please do not hesitate to contact us.
The best way is to use our On-line support (log in to your account to use it).
Please describe your query in details and one of our support staff will contact you soon.
Escrow-secure.net

A trustworthy service with personal care

Site: Escrow-Secure.net
Created: 02-Oct-2002
Reported: 11-Oct-2002

All of the information in the following report comes from public
records. You should be aware that fraud artists never register their
sites with information that could lead back to them. The names used in
such site registrations are most likely the result of identity theft.
Any person identified as a side effect of attempting to validate site
registration information is either also a victim of identity theft or
the fraud artist just happened to pick some random house number or
telephone number that was valid.

The verification of contact information for a site that is apparently
fraudulent simply adds weight to the conclusion that the site is a
fraud. The information has no other purpose unless it is used by
appropriate law enforcement agencies to verify that the identified
person is not related to the fraud in any way.

Domain Name: ESCROW-SECURE.NET
IP address: 66.218.65.125
Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE
Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Name Server: NS8.SAN.YAHOO.COM
Name Server: NS9.SAN.YAHOO.COM
Created: 2002-10-02

Administrative Contact:
Gosling Kristian
322 kelly avenue
mount joy, PA 17552 US
Email: knight_ian2000@yahoo.com
Phone: +1.7172951800

Technical Contact:
YahooDomains TechContact
701 First Ave.
Sunnyvale, CA 94089 US
Email: domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Phone: +1.6198813096

This site was discovered because it was listed on the Romanian version
of my site. This site is clearly related to the other current Romanian
frauds, SOS4Auction.com, Secure-Trans.net , EscrowUp.co.uk ,
Mosttul.com, Mosttul.net and DataSystem.org. At this time, this site
has yet to be setup. For more information on the registration, see the
documents on Mosttul.net and Secure-Trans.net which were both registered
with the same administrative contact information

I am in the middle of - as I type this - a scam artist trying to scam me out of 5 expensive laptops worth about $10,000. He's recommended two scam escrow sites so far "to protect himself". I happen to run a small online store so he's trying to scam me out of as much as he can :-) It's going to be fun seeing how far he'll go...

His email is joe@inb0x.com, a domain registered in Britain but he says he's from the states. I'm from Canada by the way if anybody's interested :-)

He's been trying to get me to use trading-secure.org and make-deals.com, both of which were just recently registered.

These type of people are the evil jerks that make things more difficult for the rest of us. It will be fun toying with him. Muahahaha! If anybody is interested in the ongoing saga, feel free to e-mail me at allen@intuitionsys.com for a transcript of what's going on and make any suggestions for further playing this guy along...

My condolences to the people that have gotten duped by these people already. I say let's dupe them for a while!

I've already contacted eBay to let them know about this guy but their record is pretty bad about doing anything about these people. They just register under another fake name with another fake credit card and keep doing it.

Watch out for a guy by the name of joe@inb0x.com or Joe Smith or www.make-deals.com (make-deals.com)

These companies/people are running a fraud scheme

My situation is i sent the product to him, i got an email before that saying make-deals.com has the 177.00 US, so i mailed the product

Never heard from him again, and never heard from www.make-deals.com other, after emailing them 5 times

He has not picked up the product yet, i think he waits for the postcard and sends someone in to pick up the postcard when ups or fedex gets it

EMAIL ME anyone out there if you heard about this guy, i got some more info on where he might be, lets screw him over for screwing us!

I have been approached to sell an expensive hermes bag I had listed on ebay via what I suspect is a phoney site www.premiere-trade.com
Has anybody else been referred to this site.
I will only use www.escrow.com. It is the only reliable and genuine escrow service I am aware of.

Almost fell for fraudulent escrow service Fortis-Deals or Europe-Escrow. Fortis is a very legit financial giant, but is not connected to Fortis Deals or Fortis-Escrow.
Thanks for alerting me not to use any online escrow service.

I WAS 5 MINUTES FROM LOSING $2400. I believe www.secure-trading.us is a scam. Here's how it played out:

I listed a laptop computer on ebay on 5/4/04 with a list price $1200.

Someone with the name Alan Connor ghicesc@druknet.bt) stated he would purchase the laptop for $2400 but wanted to use www.secure-trading.us to purchase.

I briefly checked the legitimacy of the company online but initially didn't see anything negative.

I received an e-mail from www.secure-trading.us stating that Alan Connor had made a payment on 5/10/04 at 6:00 am and that I should send the computer.

I went to the UPS Store on 5/10/04 at 10:30 am to package and ship the computer.

Later in the afternoon, around 5:00 pm, I decided to check my account on www.secure-trading.us and I received this message "ERROR - Can't find that user in the database Bad file descriptor".

My stomach immediately knotted as I started to realize that I've been scammed. I looked online again to check the web page and, thankfully, stumbled across this site.

After reading about the many fraudulent escrow web pages, I ran for my truck and drove as fast as I could to the UPS Store. As I pulled into the parking lot, I SAW THE UPS TRUCK BEING LOADED WITH THE DAYS PACKAGES. I fortunantly have a good relationship with the owner and was able to retrieve my package in the nick of time.

The lessions I've learned from this process? If it sounds too good to be true, it is. And, don't stray from the web pages recommended by ebay. It just about cost me $2400.

There are a lot of fake escrow sites out on the web we believe that this site is a fraud site
www.magic-escrow.com

Also beware of anyone selling anything on www.alibaba.com from Romainia especially technology products like Apple Mini Ipods

DONT SEND ANYTHING USING WESTERN UNION or FAKE ESCROW SITES!!!

(they pretend they are located in Italy but we traced their emails to Romainia) its all a SCAM we have lost money and have contacted the FBI internet fraud unit and Intepol and ebay Safe harbour department.

We were scammed by the following people:

flendurica@yahoo.com
from sale.co
name : Andra Hank
phone : 00393480599400
address : via Sacrofaneze 25
city : Roma
zip code : 01188
country : Italy

Tracking Details shows that the fraudster was located in Romania

Opened at apparent address of: flendurica@yahoo.com
Opened 15-May-04 at 04:33:44am (UTC -5:00) - 10hours48mins25secs after sending
Location Leucesti, Valcea, Romania (81% likelihood)
Opened on micomada.catv.onix.ro (194.102.104.164:1920)
Language of recipient's PC: en-us (English/United States)
Browser used by recipient: Moz/4.0 (MSIE 6.0; WinNT 5.1)
Referrer http://us. f413. mail. yahoo. com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=4928_1239933_63524_1828_2614_0_1298_6220_1656942222& YY=44445& inc=25& order=down& sort=

This person is also using an ebay id of cvv13
its either their account or that account has been hijacked

The following is trying to get you to send money via western union for EURO 2004 tickets - the address is the same as mentioned before. DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY !
Name : Hurtado Victoria
Address : Via Sacrofaneze 25
City : Roma
Zip code : 01188
Country : Italy

Just letting you know that address has popped up again, this time on an Irish auction site called www.edib.ie,
This time the name is different...
Linda Hortz,
Via Sacrofaneze 25
Roma
01188
Italy.

Interestingly this Linda person pops up on a discussion about fraud, nonetheless! -
http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27828&whichpage=1

just thought y'all would be interested. What I found suprising from my contacts with this person, is that she/he was willing to use a passport as proof of id to collect funds at a western union office! - How have these people not been caught if there are passports involved ?

I am notifying yahoo admin and ebid that one of their users is up to no good.

I had been dealing with this guy named
Virtopeanu Marian at
via Sacrofaneze 25
Roma Itlay 01189

I sent him the money already and havent heard anything in acouple days. Think its a scaam? thanks

The passage given below is an email from a seller in Hardwarezone Singapore. http://hardwarezone.com.sg
lucky for me, I feel in doubt so I searched "Via Sacrofaneze" in google and I found this page.
The phone in the maket is sold at approximately S$1400 but his price is S$450. Everybody be aware of this seller
"
hello
here is my full name and address were you can transfer the money:
name:Virtopeanu Marian
add:Via Sacrofaneze
Zip:01188
City:Roma
Country:Italy
you will need to go at nay bank or post office were you see the western union post whit an ID and you will send the money on my name and address
also please give me your full name and address so i can start tonight to pack the phone to be send...
mail me!!
"

It is interesting that the same address pops up over and over again, I will definately update the FBI and Interpol file and let them know hopefully they can get these low life scum bags arrested and a long prison sentance and pay the money back

flendurica@yahoo.com
from sale.co
name : Andra Hank
phone : 00393480599400
address : via Sacrofaneze 25
city : Roma
zip

When you correspond with these people from their email address register with ReadNotify.com and send an email to their address ie:
flendurica@yahoo.com.ReadNotify.com

This will tell you the location where these people are, This will prove that these criminals are not in the country they claim to be in and will come back with a Leucesti, Velcea Romainia address. They will claim they are in Rome Italy
DON"T BUY ANYTHING FROM ANYONE IN ROMAINIA ITS A CON

Whew.. Glad I came here.. I was just about to make payments to Andra Hank, and the EuroTelephone company for iPod Mini's.
I have also contacted:
Stoeanof Ion [cellularele@yahoo.com]
Tantalaulzz tantalaulzz [tantalaulzz@europe.com]
Roger Helveg [r_helveg@yahoo.com]
I simply didn't do the deal with them, I'm not sure if they're crooks or not. How do I trace their email address?
I really want to sell some iPod Mini's, anyone know where the legit suppliers are?

Thanks!

Hi again. A quick update...
That "pescuit123@yahoo.com" person has popped up on that Irish Ebid auction site again, since I mailed their admin/customer service to warn them.
I set up a new email account and went through the whole "I'm soooo very interested in killing, I mean buying your stuff blurb", with a readnotify on the email address. (thanks BewareFraudsters).
The originating ip address is indeed in Leucesti, Valcea, Romania (81% likelihood).
The originating ip address is 194.102.104.164 which I threw into the RIPEWhois database, and look what i found..
inetnum: 194.102.104.0 - 194.102.104.255
netname: ONIX-CATV
descr: SC Onix SRL
descr: 6 G-ral Magheru Street
descr: Ramnicu-Valcea 1000
country: RO
admin-c: MD2812-RIPE
tech-c: MD2812-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PI
notify: hostmaster@rnc.ro
mnt-by: AS3233-MNT
mnt-lower: AS3233-MNT
mnt-routes: AS3233-MNT
mnt-routes: ONIX-MNT
changed: hostmaster-estaicut_rnc_ro@rnc.ro 20000507
changed: hostmaster@rnc.ro 20010215
changed: hostmaster@rnc.ro 20020104
source: RIPE

route: 194.102.104.0/24
descr: ONIX
origin: AS15972
mnt-by: ONIX-MNT
notify: mari@onix.ro
changed: mari@onix.ro 20020618
source: RIPE

person: Marian Dobre
address: G-ral Magheru 5
address: Rm Valcea, Valcea 1000
address: RO
phone: +4093380812
fax-no: +4050733303
e-mail: mari@onix.ro
nic-hdl: MD2812-RIPE
notify: hostmaster@rnc.ro
mnt-by: AS3233-MNT
changed: hostmaster@rnc.ro 20010717
changed: hostmaster@rnc.ro 20021001
source: RIPE

- I have contacted Western Union, who have passed the info onto their security dept.
- I contacted Ebid (Auction site in Ireland where these tossers are making an apparant killing). They havent replied, how do I make them take my warnings seriously ??

I got the same guy from rome:
Hank Andra
Via Sacrofaneze 25
Roma 01188
Italy
but i checked and is a romanian guy, is clearly a fraud.....
electronics_new@yahoo.com

This guy andra hank has a beatiful business, they have their own frfeight company, FAKE ONE OF COURSE: http://www.us-freightmasters.net/contact.htm

is a fake company and of course he can send you the order tracking number because he creates the numbers himself......

I will update my contact at the FBI with all you updated info - THANKS!!

Anyone trying to sell Apple Ipod minis from Romainia is a fraud including all the people listed above

FRAUD PEOPLE DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH
THEY WANT TO CON YOU OUT OF MONEY

1. Andra Hank flendurica@yahoo.com
2. Tantalaulzz tantalaulzz@europe.com
3. Roger Helveg r_helveg@yahoo.com

PLEASE REGISTER WITH READNOTIFY.COM AND SEND THEM ALL AN EMAIL IE:

flendurica@yahoo.com.Readnotify.com and you will see that are ALL located in ROMAINIA

Speak French -------------

Bonjour,
idem pour moi je me suis fait arnaqué par linda hortz :
lindahortz001@yahoo.com

Le problème est qu'apparement, le numero de controle pour le transfert de l'argent n'est pas obligatoire dna s les autres pays, donc je pensais faire le virement et attendre la reception de l'appareil photo, mais comme ils ont pu retiré l'argent sans le mctn, je me suis fait arnaqué...
maintenant je suis sur que meme si je me deplace, iol n'y aura personne a l'adersse postal !!

enfin faites attentions, j'irqais quand m^peme porter plainte à la police, mais bon snas espor de recuperation ...

Cordialement
marc pinto del silva

pescuit123@yahoo.com - I was one of the bidders for this guys auction and eventually after contacted ebid.ie a couple of times they sent out a warning and him.

pescuit123@yahoo.com is presently selling on onsale.com

https://www.onsale.com/itemdetails/ShowClosedItem.aspx?listingid=1198077

This guy Andra (or another romanian name) is really a professional. He SOLD a camera to me. I paid him through the Western Union. He is really an artist, but I swear that if I find him I break his neck.

He contacted me as: andra_hank2003@yahoo.com

BE AWARE!!!!

US Freightmasters is such a good american name for a fake american site.

Do you have any Idea if there is a way to take my money back from Western Union, maybe a kind of insurance?

Regards from Germany

Linda Hortz again!!!

Be aware of this address:

Address: Via Sacrofaneze 25
City: Roma
Country: Italy

Just for your couriousity:

You are cheated by Romanian scammers, which are located in Romania ( most of them in Ramnicu-Valcea city ).
But, there are romanians too in other countries ( Spain, Italy, Germany, United Kingdom... allmost everywhere.. even in USA ) who pick up the money from Western Union using FAKE ID's. A fake ID card can be get with less than 100 USD.

There is a strong relationship between the scammer ( the one you talk via e-mail ) and the other romanian who pick up the money.

I'm a scammer too, I DON'T like what I'm doing ( stealing from you ) but I have to survive myself and the Romanian State does not offer me this important choice so I have to steal. Besides that, most of romanians steal, each one in his way.

Have a safely day !

I was also about to do a "transaction" with this
Hank Andra, claiming to be living in Italy.

I was to purchase a laptop for Euro 300.00

Although I got very correct response to my mails,
I found it a bit to good to be true!

I agreed to pay by Western Union after receiving
a delivery proof of DHL.
I effectively received a shipping notification in a seemly original DHL mail.
However I get suspicion after seen no tracking nr.
I work a lot with DHL and as far as I know, you always get a tracking number!

I was about to go to the post office to do the payment, when I decided to do one more check on the internet.
So I typed in this address he gave me; "Via Sacrofaneze" and came on this site.

I want to thank you all for the warnings.

It is unbelievable that you can be tricked in a scam so easily !

thanx to you all guys you prevented me loosing a
(for me) considerable amount of money.

Keep up the good work!

Beware of Robert Helveg

Also his contact in Italy

Angela Pascal
Via Varese 15
Rome
Italy
10880

Just scammed me out of £1000.00

I have the same problem just one day ago. I paid 170 euros to Hank Andra. The same address: Via Sacrofaneze 25. Is there any solution?

Have a feeling i just got conned out of 450 euros from someone called 'Russel grimm' for 5 mini ipods. Using western union

Watch out for www.eurotelephone-it.com selling cheap somputers posted on varoius sites around the world in your home language. This is clearly a fraud and you will probably never see that money again. Please spread the word to stop these idiots.

Hey guys , eurotelephone-it company people are real crooks ,based in Romania they have nothing to do with Italy .Do never send your money using western union in such a transaction , western union is for the people you know.

The police need to know , it's easy to arrest them since they are using western union all the time.

Are all mini ipods that are seling for under $155 fraudulant? There are a couple in Pakistan+india and using 'readnotify' they are indeed where they say they are. However only accept WU+wire transfer. Please advise on whether or not this is fraudulant

I think I've tracked down "Hank Andra".
Have a nice day!

person: Popa Octavian
address: Str. Mihai Eminescu, Nr. 3, Bl. Socom Olt, Ramnicu Valcea
phone: +40-0740-412710
e-mail: creator@valcea.rdsnet.ro
nic-hdl: PO542-RIPE
notify: notify-ripe@rdsnet.ro
mnt-by: AS8708-MNT
changed: bcd@rdsnet.ro 20040103
source: RIPE

I think I've tracked down "Hank Andra" (IP:81.196.125.133)
Have a nice day!

person: Popa Octavian
address: Str. Mihai Eminescu, Nr. 3, Bl. Socom Olt, Ramnicu Valcea
phone: +40-0740-412710
e-mail: creator@valcea.rdsnet.ro
nic-hdl: PO542-RIPE
notify: notify-ripe@rdsnet.ro
mnt-by: AS8708-MNT
changed: bcd@rdsnet.ro 20040103
source: RIPE

BEWARE SCAMERS!!!I WAS RIPPED OFF FOR $2500.00. ,AND THEY WANTED MORE.. Cirstoiu George
Via Fluvio Testi
Milano
Italy
zip 20149
italcina2000@yahoo.com!

Dumitrescu Petrescu
Via Vare 26
Milano
Italy
zip 20149

Mr Michael Yim

Company : [Manufacturer]

E-mail : italcina2000@yahoo.com


Country/Territory : Hong Kong
City : Kowloon
Address : Flat-5, 8/F, Kowloon Bay Industrial Centre, 15 Wang Hoi Road, Kowloon Bay.
Phone : 852-23805721
Fax : 852-23097522

ALL ARE SCAMERS!!!

Beware of Mircea Gutau

Also his contact in Italy

Comuna del Covo 47 Milano
IT
20161

Ship From:
3 Via Romano
Milano
IT
20103

is there a solution to get back our funds?

I have been contacted by ANDRA.HANK2003@YAHOO.COM BE WARE OF THIS PERSON, I almost got suckered into paying an enormous amount of money via Western Union. Working in a law firm, nothing gets by me without a fight. I work too damn hard for my money to be tossing it to scam artists as such. I will find him.

I have been contacted by ANDRA.HANK2003@YAHOO.COM BE WARE OF THIS PERSON, I almost got suckered into paying an enormous amount of money via Western Union. Working in a law firm, nothing gets by me without a fight. I work too damn hard for my money to be tossing it to scam artists as such. I will find him.

I think that the USA should dispatch an FBI team into Romaina and shutdown every internet provider in that country. They can't be trusted to use the internet in a proper appropriate manner. DON'T DO ANY TRADING WITH THAT HORRIBLE PLACE!!! its full of crime

Send in the B52's and bomb the crap out of Romaina is the only way forward

Two more names to add to your list of fraud experts. Their display names are listted as Ih and Adam Nielsen and their e-mail address is as follows. Please be aware of these individuals.

Ih - navembanidafacembani@yahoo.com
Adam Nielsen - nikouu_seller@yahoo.com

I was trying to buy a camera on eBay and all of the sudden a Hank Andra contacted me. It was an expensive camera for a riduclous price. He was obviously working with the seller to bait people.
Item name: Contax 645 Medium Format System, Zeiss T*, MP-1 Grip
Item number: 3828905869
Current price: US $1.705,50
Your maximum bid: $1,680.50
End date: 30-lug-04 03:13:28 CEST

Have a look.

David

Received a message from electronics_new@yahoo.com to offer a high value item. Was a bit sceptic about that offer as he/she was referring to E-Bay auctions I participated in. Requested price was surprisingly low (approx. 50% of sellers price list for a brand new item). The tip with "readnotify.com" was excellent, mail was traced to the US to be read immeadiately from an account in romanian language. As US is now 05.00 hrs a.m., I guess someone in Europe received my message.

Thank you all for the warnings, saved me some 600 euro´s.

I have just been tricked by this person, with this address, luckily I found this website before I sent the money. BEWARE of Linda Hortz via Sacrofaneze 25 in Rome it is a pure scam!!

I am the newest of the conned.. Ive just been conned out of £600 for a laptop. from a guy in Roma, Italy. His details are;
Venanteti Larisa
via Tuscolana 12 (Which is a Hotel Villa)
Roma
01188
ITALY
Tel-0040741395815 (give him a call and give him some abuse)
Email - paulpeneo@hotmail.com
if anyone has any information let me know!

good thing i did a search on the address because i almost got scammed by the same guy. this is what he wrote:
Hi,
Sir i am a serious seller,i belive you that you are a fraid but i am a serious and i think that i don't risk my liberty for 350 USD.I have a family at home and i don't likeit to scamm people.
I will shipp the package imediatly to you by UPS Express Air after the payment is made to me by WesternUnion.
Here is my adress to make the pament to me:
name Linda Hortz
street via sacrofaneze 25
Roma 01188
Italy

he even gave me his number when i asked him for it: 0040741623627
this number leads back to romania. maybe this number can track this scammer down? does anyone know how to do that? or someone can just forward this to the fbi or anything site that can report frauds.

Just came close to being scammed by Linda Hortz, I am glad that i decided to do a search and see if anything iffy showed up. I think i am going to cantact the authorities.

lindahortz001@yahoo.com

Attention danger!
Arnaque garantie!

Why don't you understand that all these names are fictious? Anyway, you can deposit the money on any name. The person from Italy ( who is a romanian one too ), can pick up the money without knowing the receiver name. Only thing she knows is the MTCN.

Btw, she is not the one who is talking with your by e-mails, she just pick up the money.

The real crooks with your are dealing are from Romania, Ramnicu-Valcea.

There are everywhere romanians in European countres, who works just to pick-up the money for the scammers from romania who convince you to send the money in Italy.

Have a safely day!

NOKIA NOKIA NOKIA LINDA HORTZ

LINDA HORTZ SELLS SOME NOKIA PHONES
ELLE VEND DES PORTABLES NOKIA

BEWARE OF THIS FUCKER

I nearly sent her some 200 euros for a 8910i

Hope this bitch will soon be in jail

mrs Linda HORTZ is now "dealing" at alibaba.com selling phones, under name of company bear co internation co ltd which is an existing company but dedicated to toys. I have been about to be ripped off as well.

I was fraud by the guy called HANK ANDRA. Paid him a lot of euros with Western Union. Made it payable to LINDA CARTER,VIA SACROFANEZE 25,ROMA IT. Haven´t heard anything since I lost my cash.
Went to the police.We will see.

WATCH OUT FOR THIS ADDRESS: ghita serifu [serifu_ghita@yahoo.com]
TRYING TO RIP OFF MY HARD EARNED MONEY!!!!
SAME CROOK... LINDA CARTER

HERE'S THE SAMPLE EMAIL:
sir i tell you my addres , sir i just came back for ups and hi tell to not send you the laptop becaus ei dont have any waranty form your part and i dont want to lose my laptop . if you want to send the money to another name and check onlyn if you makr the payment i send you the laptop you get the laptop in 48 /h and the when you get the laptop in you hands and see is ok with him you change the name in my name , i am very sory for you but i dont want to risk please understen my .

Bye and let me know

this is my name and addres

Here are my details for the W.U. money wire :
name : Linda Carter
address : via Sacrofaneze 25
city : Roma
zip code : 01188
country : Italy

Specifications:
AMD. Athlon XP-M processor 3000+ 1.6GHz
Windows XP Home Operating System (pre-installed)
512MB DDR SDRAM (2x256MB) at 333MHz
NVIDIA. GeForce4 420 Go with 32MB DDR Graphics Card
60GB Enhanced IDE Hard Drive
DVD-ROM/CD-RW combo drive
15.4" WXGA TFT WVA (1280 x 800) widescreen display
54g Integrated 802.11 b/g wireless LAN
3 Universal Serial Bus (USB) 2.0, 1 notebook expansion port
Integrated 10/100Base-T Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector); integrated high-speed 56K modem (RJ-11 connector)
Dimensions: 11.18" (L) (w/out hinge) to 11.59" (L)(w/hinge) x 14.25" (W) x 1.8" (H)
Weight: 7.9 lb
Sound: Internal Harman Kardon. speakers; AC audio link, 16-bit Sound Blaster. Pro-compatible audio, volume control buttons and mute button.

THIS CROOK IS EVEN USING AN EBAY ID THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO HER...WATCH OUT...

Unfortunalely I found this site to late.
(I,m from Germany)
Last week I have been contacted by a person called Hank Andra (atarnagreu@yahoo.com).
He makes me an offering for a digital recording Studio (630 Euro).
But I should send the money to western union to following address:

Linda Carter
via Sacrofaneze 25
Roma
01188

Unfortunately I´ve trust this guy and send 630 Euro to this address!!!
After I sent him the MTCN Number I never heard anythimg from this fraud.
Now I see my big mistake.

What can I do now?
Is there any possibility to get the money back?
Please help me - this is a big sum for me!

Please shut down this fake escrow website today !
!!! www.baynestrading.net !!!
They scamming all the peoples !
Thanks !

Thank fuck for this site nearly got done by Linda For $800. Nice

Thank you so much. I was about to give these scum bags £500 and i typed their address into gogle and got this page. Below is the message i received.

To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to a WesternUnion agent .From WesternUnion you will receive a number MTCN, you must send me that number as soon as you have arranged the payment so I can go to www.westernunion .com to see if the transaction is arranged. As soon as I have verifyed the transaction, I will ship you the package . For the reason that you will pay some money for the WesternUnion wire transfer fee, I will cover shipping and insurance.
Here it is the full name and address where you must send the money .
FIRST NAME : LINDA
LAST NAME : CARTER
CITY : ROMA
ADDRESS : via sacrofaneze 25
ZIP : 01188
COUNTRY : ITALY

BEWARE OF THESE BA****DS, THEY ARE VERY CONVINCING

Same thing almost happened to me. The seller was in the UK, the item was in the US, and the seller proposed free shipping and escrow through www. fortis-trading.biz No contact information, no phone number, no go for me.

Linda Carter is still on alibaba.com 'selling' Apple ipods cheaply. Thank goodness I did a check on the address. Luckily at my day job we spend a lot of time on the internet trying to find out who makes what so that we can buy from the manufacturer and don't have to use middlemen. Whoever runs this site, as well as everyone who has posted has just saved me £500. Thank-you all for your time and effort.

total scam?

IF YOU WANT TO BUY LAPTOPS, PLASMA TV'S, MOBILE PHONES OR ANY HIGH VALUE ITEM, YOU HAVE TO USE WWW.ESCROW.COM IF THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THIS SERVICE, THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY 100% FAKE. IF THEY CLAIM TO HAVE USED WWW.ESCROW.COM BEFROE AND TELL YOU 'THEY HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF BEFORE USING THIS SITE' CONTACT ESCROW.COM AND ASK THEM IF THAT EMAIL ADDRESS HAS BEEN USED BEFORE FOR AN 'ESCROW TRANSACTION'
__________________________________________________

~~~~~~~~~~~B E V E R Y C A R E F U L~~~~~~~~~~~
__________________________________________________

I was nearly tricked , you know you people. Thank you very very much, I was planing to send my money this morning!!. Yes this morning to :
Name: Linda Carter
Address: Via sacrofaneze 25
City: Roma
Zip code: 01188
Country: Italy
I have become more and more suspiciuos because this person want to sell me a car in USA and he want me on the other hand, to send the money to the address in Italy also he made me a big discount. First he offered the car to be sold by 6300 USD then by 6000 USD, shortly after that he offered the car by 4500 USD !! the car is Ford Mustang 2002 in Alibaba web site. Shortly after that he checked the car in Autocheck for me, without asking!!
Then I discovered from reading the Autocheck report that the car has cut 20,124 miles (in 08/24/2004)while in the pics. he (or she)had sent me before the odometer shows that the car has cut 29,185 miles (in 09/05/2004) so when I asked him how can the car had cut 9061.1 miles in 13th days he has no answer. I also tryed to buy the iPods from him(or her) so I asked him
many questions about the product but he ignore most of it, and when I asked him about his phone number he hesitated then he gave me this phone number: 0039 34 78759318
When I asked her about her's mid-name she sent me this:Hi .........
This is my full name:
first name:Linda
middle name:--------(I don't have)
last name:Carter
Regards,
and then when I insisted she sent me: I don't understand and I can't beleve that .This is my full name Linda Carter OK????
my father's name:Carter D Thomas
Regards,
and when I mailed her(or him) the W.U. form to fill she wrote me:
first name: Linda
Middle name: T
Last name: Carter
Nationality: Italian
so, how can this be true??How can her father's name is her last name. Does Linda Carter name sounds Italian. Also I found via Alibaba web site 6 advs. how carry the name Linda Carter: 1 in USA, 3 in Italy, and 2 in UK..
Another person with the name of Angelina Medi, when I tried to use her phone number i discovered that this is a phone of public service office!!
His or her e-mail is: viermelemare@yahoo.com
and for the other person: Angelina_medi@Yahoo.com
and: fastman2u@yahoo.com for another Linda Carter, imagine fastman for a lady.

Dear Cosmo..
The same spelling mistakes happened with me, so is there anyway to stop those fraudful criminals who make it so difficult to trust anyone?
Who will protect us from such people?
Who is the people in charge for catching and punishing such people?

You can add the name below to the definite fraud list:

Jordan Cristine
Via Sacrofaneze 25
Roma 01188
Italy

Tried to sell me an Acer laptop worth around 2000 EUR for only 1100 (too cheap to actually be true!) via www.us-freightmasters.net (of course with a self-created tracking no.) Approached me while bidding for a simular item on Ebay. Apparently hijacked a member's name ("143quietman")who seems to be located in Shanghai. It was suspicious from the start...
Her/his email is electronics_new@yahoo.com. The initial email I received was from the address jr@snow.com.sg, also likely to have been misused. The following is the mail's content:

Dear [member name]
Please note : Do not reply to this email directly.Please copy and paste the e-mail address listed below in your address browser :electronics_new@yahoo.com My name is Cristine. I have a business opportunity I hope you will consider. I noticed that you were bidding on a (Acer Ferrari 3200 Item number: 5123236597), and I have 15 of those ready to ship. I am selling them for a extremely discounted price of 1100 eur). As a courtesy to you and every other customer, all shipping and customs charges will be included in the full purchase price. Please note : Do not reply to this email directly.Please copy and paste the e-mail address listed below in your address browser :electronics_new@yahoo.com

Thank you,
143quietman

I wrote back and said I was interested. Within minutes(!), a second email was sent to me:

Hello,
I will ship the package using www.us-freightmasters.net. It's a very good service and the fastest.
The package will reach you within 2-3 days and it will be delivered to your home.
I will give you the tracking number as soon as I make the delivery and after you check it out, I will wait for the Western Union payment details from you .
let me know if you agree?
best regards

Finally, an address where to send the money to was revealed:

Hello,
I shipp the package with www.us-freightmasters.net
Here is your tracking number:1YF1451Z21112547731
You can verificy at http://www.us-freightmasters.net/network.php
please after verificy go to office western union and pay me 1100 EUR on me address,
then must send me scan paper or MTCN(Money Transfer Control Numbe) and sender`s name,
Me address for payment is:
Jordan Cristine
Via Sacrofaneze 25
Roma 01188
Italy
if you can pay me today or tomorrow is very good,
I still wait for all details,
best regards
Larisa

143quietman? Christine Jordan?? Larisa??? The good thing about these criminals is that they're not the smartest. Another example: The last email had spelling mistake patterns which didn't exist in the previous. Ergo, another person is likely to have written that one. Apparently it's around-the-clock fraud. Also, they seemed eager to get one's money which is NEVER trustworthy.
Last, I searched for the address and found this site. I sincerely hope there's a way to charge whoever's behind that fraud, unfortunately there's not much one can do besides keeping both eyes open.

Hi!!! I mentioned the same f´´´´´ng fraud
from Christine Jordan (I think)!
The same thing Cosmo mentioned.
----I´ve googled for this sentence ("I will wait for the Western Union payment details from you ")and found ---------this site!!! ---thank u very much!!----
Only that i was bet for a high quality Prosumer Video Cam at ebay Germany!hello,Here are the original words:

(my questin was about the age (is it new?)and the record format(pal or ntsc))):
is it new in box,and is it pal,
I will ship the package using www.us-freightmasters.net. It's a very good service and the fastest.
The package will reach you within 2-3 days and it will be delivered to your home.
I will give you the tracking number as soon as I make the delivery and after you check it out, I will wait for the Western Union payment details from you .
let me know if you agree/
best regards

the first mail:
please note : Do not reply to this email directly.Please copy and paste the e-mail address listed below in your address browser :electronics_new@yahoo.com My name is Cristine. I have a business opportunity I hope you will consider. I noticed that you were bidding on a (Canon XM1 - 3CCD Camcorder pal ), and I have 15 of those ready to ship. I am selling them for a extremely discounted price of (500 eur). As a courtesy to you and every other customer, all shipping and customs charges will be included in the full purchase price. Please note : Do not reply to this email directly.Please copy and paste the e-mail address listed below in your address browser :electronics_new@yahoo.com

very very dirty!! can noone get those idiots???

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Hi!!! I mentioned the same f´´´´´ng fraud
from Christine Jordan (I think)!
The same thing Cosmo mentioned.
----I´ve googled for this sentence ("I will wait for the Western Union payment details from you ")and found ---------this site!!! ---thank u very much!!----
Only that i was bet for a high quality Prosumer Video Cam at ebay Germany!hello,Here are the original words:

(my questin was about the age (is it new?)and the record format(pal or ntsc))):
is it new in box,and is it pal,
I will ship the package using www.us-freightmasters.net. It's a very good service and the fastest.
The package will reach you within 2-3 days and it will be delivered to your home.
I will give you the tracking number as soon as I make the delivery and after you check it out, I will wait for the Western Union payment details from you .
let me know if you agree/
best regards

the first mail:
please note : Do not reply to this email directly.Please copy and paste the e-mail address listed below in your address browser :electronics_new@yahoo.com My name is Cristine. I have a business opportunity I hope you will consider. I noticed that you were bidding on a (Canon XM1 - 3CCD Camcorder pal ), and I have 15 of those ready to ship. I am selling them for a extremely discounted price of (500 eur). As a courtesy to you and every other customer, all shipping and customs charges will be included in the full purchase price. Please note : Do not reply to this email directly.Please copy and paste the e-mail address listed below in your address browser :electronics_new@yahoo.com

very very dirty!! can noone get those idiots???

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The same thing!
Crisrine(or Andra or whatewer)!Laptop for 650 Euro! Thank's for my birthday's gift :(((( Does anyone have any information about this freak? :/

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE/SHE IS THE SWINDLER (THIEF).

Jordan Cristine
Via Sacrofaneze
25 Roma 01188 Italy
e-mail:jordan_cristine@yahoo.com

-but i need the all name and item number from
sony,
i will sell for 650 eur,
i will shipp with www.us-freightmasters.net and after shipp your package you must receive confirmation from company in your e-mail.
In confirmation you have tracking number and all details from payment,
you must pay me through western union,and then must send at company through your confirmation all details from western union,in max 24 hours .
The package will reach you within 2-3 days and it will be delivered to your home.
if you agree please send em your full address,and tomorrow i will shipp,
best regards

-hello,
sir you can verificy at company tracking number,and after you send at company all details they send me all details only after you receive the laptop,
is ok?

-sir please tell me again iv i can shipp your sony tomorrow and you pay me via western union after receive confirmation,
me address for payment is:
Jordan Cristine
Via Sacrofaneze
25 Roma 01188 Italy
e-mail:jordan_cristine@yahoo.com

ok?

How to struggle?

Yes.....exactly right from the name, address and email.

Jordan whatever, this is the guy took me $2,000.00 US and nothing happen, not even an email after received the payment. This is just happen a week ago.

I contact ebay and reported to federal agency all of the email they send to me and here they are;

totcujordan@yahoo.com
Mustrare@aol.com
baleguta@hotmail.com

and an email comfirmation from Fedex outsite of United State, every one please aware of all these.

But, why do we received a mail, and then we check that email is came from nowhere? which mean how do they login online in order to send an email?

Anyway, Evey one be aware.

Thank-you all.

Ken

Is this authentic or is it fake?

"FedEx Online Escrow"

It claims to be some new agreement FedEx have with Escrow. Any ideas on its authencity?

I have also been scammed by a person in Romania. Petrescu Florian. Contacted me on items that did not sell on ebay. stated that they missed the auction, but wanted the 35 pairs of shoes and boots. Gave me an escrow company to handle the funds. I checked out their feedback, checked fraud lists for the escrow company. I sent the shoes, etc at my own expense. Petrescu Florian sent several emails telling me to wait, all was ok. Now, they are sending emails stating they have pd me!!! Have NOT been paid!!! I am out over 1800.00! Beware of Petrescu Florian Sus. Pantelimon nr 98 bloc 402A Scara 1 ap 127, sector 2 Bucharest Romania 07000. I have since seen this person and their "escrow" company on several fraud websites. I have reported this person for postal fraud, the FBI, our government and the Romanian government, etc. Beware of escrow companies that are similar to ones listed on fraud websites. Finance-LTD.net IS A FRAUD ESCROW COMPANY!!!

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/p1052177/#p1052177

There might be away to track this person.
if you use western union to pay the fraud
then western union knows where it was collected from!
Could there be a CCTv camera.
Also might collect there wining from the same place.

Just read two e:mails below. I found them on Alibaba.com Of course I'm not going to send them the money, but based on those suckers prices I posted an auction on Ebay.This was my first try on e:bay. But thank god I will lose some money and will not pay the basterds on earth.

Dear Mr. Niraj,

Here you have the banking information that you need to complete the transfer:

Bank's name: Raiffeisen BANK
Bank account owner: Oliver Ion Militaru ( Full Name )
Bank Acount Number: 5523471
IBAN: RO38RZBR0000060005523471
Swift Code: RZBRROBU
Bank address: Str. Stirbei Voda, Ramnicu Valcea, Valcea 1000
Country: ROMANIA.

Note: Please transfer the money in USD currency.

After is done please call me and confirm because at that time I will be in my warehouse.

Thank you...
Robert Ionescu

My e:mail to this sucker for which I received above reply.

Dear Mr. Robert:

It was nice talking to you over the phone. As I mentioned my concern and reason for that, you would understand that I am in search of good trustable source who can supply me good quantity of Cell phones in timely maner, good quality & quantity, and at good price. Just to be on safe side I would like to place order for two Nokia 9500 phones with you at this time. As soon as I receive the phones I will compare the quality of the phone with the one mentioned in the listing and place order for 10 more pcs and then 50 more pcs and after that our dealing will be regular. I will also visit you in Romania in December to talk on how best we can develop out business relationship. Please give me you bank detail, I will send a wire transfer of $700 today.

I have made complaint of these frauds to US Embassy in Romania, you guys please make the complaints to stop this thing else more and more people will lose trust on other person. Please make complaints, please never stop till you get rid of these frauds, please make complaints at as many places as you can to FBI, To US Embassy in Italy,Romania, TO Italian Embassy in USA, To Romanian Embassy in USA . Tell them we have lost trust on the people in Italy and Romania to do business because of such scams and cheatings. Please send the e:mails to above authorities who can fight for us.

The easiest way to not get FRAUDED is to meet the person and deal this way you will know who you are dealing with and for god sake never send to ROMAANIA i know alot about these western unions ive busted loads of them before now its kind of fun winding the little twats up luckily ive never been done by one as i was warned about them along time ago

Same case here on the Nokia 9500.
I've paid them actualy for USD 300 for one phone.
I thought I could trust them, but until this day, I have not receive the goods.
I even tried to contact them again by e-mail and AOL instant messaging, and the person did not answer any of them.

Niraj Shah, how do you file a complaint to US Embassy in Romania and FBI? because I want to do it too.
It's not all about the money, but the feeling being cheated after a good faith transaction.

Thanks.

I sold something to a buyer in Spain. He asked me to use his escrow uk-alliance-group.com so I did. I sent the item by DHL. Five times the DHL people tried to deliver it to a phoney address and I caught on so I put a stop delivery request in. Twenty-four hours after my request to return them to me, DHL handed them over to the fraudulant buyer at their office. When I contacted DHL, they said "There was no guarantee" that the stop request actually would go through. Meanwhile, the escrow company has disappeared for "non-payment" of web-site fees.

The buyer hijacked someone's ebay reputation and lured me into it that way. He had 1,691 favorable reviews and represented himself as a stamp collector.

I also blame DHL for not stopping the shipment. They had more than 24 hours to process it and dragged their feet. I don't wonder DHL wasn't in on it.

RECEIVED FOLLOWING REPLY FROM U.S. EMBASSY IN BUCHAREST, ROMANIA. PLEASE USE PROVIDED LINKS TO MAKE COMPLAINTS.

The Assistant Legal Attache in the U.S. Embassy in Bucharest advised us that the FBI office in Bucharest does not take direct complaints and that you should contact the Internet Fraud Complaint Center in West Virginia at (304)363-4312. You may file your complaint by following this link:

http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

-----Original Message-----
From: Niraj Shah [mailto:nirajshahn@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:56 PM
To: acsbucharest@state.gov
Subject: Fw: Fraud report

Dear Sirs:

I have also given my name and address to these cheaters so please take necessary action before they start using my name and address. cheat others. As one of these cheaters had given me wrong phone number in the U.S. where I called the lady and found out that the person had used her name and phone number to cheat me. Please find following name and phone number of person whose identity was stole by one of these cheaters. Please find cheaters lising on www.alibaba.com where he/she gives the phone number(phone number he/she has removed at this time) and name of someone else. http://www.alibaba.com/company/10172452.html

Please find following correspondence of mine with this cheater.

Company : Euro Connect. [Trading Company]

Name : Ms Ann Showan
Subject : Re: Nokia 9500
Date : Sun Nov 14 23:52:59 PST 2004
Message : Hello.
The phone are NEW and they came with all accesories like USB cable, etc.
Please let me know the quantity and where to shipp them by FedEx.
About the payment method, we can use Paypal, MoneyGram, WesternUnion, Bank transfers, etc.
We look forward to hearing from you.
BEst regards,
Ann

More Sender Information
E-mail : ann_showan@yahoo.com

Country/Territory : United States
City : Doylestown
Address : 5119 Paist Road
Phone : 1-215-794-0446 Fax : 1-215-794-0446
If you have received this email by mistake or have any questions regarding it, simply contact us at alibaba@alibaba-inc.com

Please take necessary action to stop this thing.

Thank you,

Niraj Shah.

----- Original Message -----
From: Niraj Shah
To: acsbucharest@state.gov
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:41 AM
Subject: Fraud report

Dear Sir/Madam:

Please find following link giving the information on how plenty of Romanians have cheated myself and other fellow U.S. Citizens. Please take necessary action to deal with this, as this thing has gone out of control and plenty of people including myself have lost lot of money in these scams. Please please help us out get rid of this people so that we can enjoy pleasant online shopping and can trust the people in Romania once again. I am also attaching here one of the replies I received from one of these cheaters. Please take necessary action or transfer this e:mail to appropriate department, as this will Kill Romanian Business ans also businesses in Italy as these scammers sometimes ask money to send to Italy. People like me will not trust any one in Italy and Romania to business if this issue is not solved.

Link: http://www.cronaca.com/archives/000196.html

Please reply.

Thank you,

Niraj Shah.

Following is the copy of the e:mail correspondence I had with one of these cheaters.

Dear Niraj,

Yes, no problem.

I'm looking forward to have you call tomorrow morning (your time).

Thank you...
Robert Ionescu

niraj@inventpublications.com wrote:
Dear Mr. Robert:

Thanks for your call and quick e:mail. Below is my address where I would like you to send the phones.

Niraj Shah
InventServices
6301 Sierra Blanca Drive # 3612
Houston, TX 77083
USA

Please send the phones to above address.

I would have to go to the bank for the wire transfer. Please prepare the order and package, I will be sending you the money first thing tomorrow in the morning. Please send the package at that time. I would like to visit your company to develop further business relation/s. Please suggest best time to visit.

Thanks and regards,

Niraj Shah.

***Main Office address is:

SAS-InventServices
10039 Bissonnet Street, Suite # 236
Houston, TX 77036

> Dear Mr. Niraj,
>
> Here you have the banking information that you need to complete the transfer:
>
> Bank's name: Raiffeisen BANK
> Bank account owner: Oliver Ion Militaru ( Full Name )
> Bank Acount Number: 5523471
> IBAN: RO38RZBR0000060005523471
> Swift Code: RZBRROBU
> Bank address: Str. Stirbei Voda, Ramnicu Valcea, Valcea 1000
> Country: ROMANIA.
>
> Note: Please transfer the money in USD currency.
>
> After is done please call me and confirm because at that time I will be in my warehouse.
>
> Thank you...
> Robert Ionescu

More about this

http://macromultiple.com/classifieds/classifieds.php?a=13&b=1561281

Here is a offer I have found.
Did anyone know what we can do?
Can we do anything ?

You can add the name below to the definite fraud list:
Jordan Cristine Via Sacrofaneze 25 Roma 01188 Italy
Tried to sell me an Acer laptop worth around 2000 EUR for only 1100 (too cheap to actually be true!) via www.us-freightmasters.net (of course with a self-created tracking no.) Approached me while bidding for a simular item on Ebay. Apparently hijacked a member's name ("143quietman")who seems to be located in Shanghai. It was suspicious from the start... Her/his email is electronics_new@yahoo.com. The initial email I received was from the address jr@snow.com.sg, also likely to have been misused. The following is the mail's content:
Dear [member name] Please note : Do not reply to this email directly.Please copy and paste the e-mail address listed below in your address browser :electronics_new@yahoo.com

I just came across this site because I wanted to buy an ipod online. I knew that it would be cheaper so I was looking on alibaba.com and ioffer.com, then this person contacted me saying that she would be able to sell me an ipod for a really cheap price because it was from Italy. I was going to go along with the transaction until I just got suspicuios so I checked on google and came across this page. Thank you so much, you guys saved me a couple hundred bucks.
F.Y.I. This person is using the following name and e-mail address:
Serena Nova
Via Sacrofaneze Roma Italy 01188
Ipodsforsale@hotmail.com

I was going to buy a Honda S2000 for $9400 ($5000) less than Blue book value. The person I was dealing with offered to pay shipping ($2700)-Red Flag. He claims he lives in Rome, Italy-Another Red Flag. And he requested I sent a down payment of ($2700 to show good faith) via Western Union-Another red flag. Needless to say, after reading all these horror stories, I will be taking my buisness to a local seller/dealer. Saving $5000 is not worth the serious risk of losing close to $3000. I don't know if he's legit or not but...Be cautious when dealing with Lester Gallagher at msn.com. For me, it's not worth the risk. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. Thanks everybody for Smaking some sense into me before I lost a boat load of money.

I got scammed by a company posing as "sassone srl" on alibab.com. Very convincing people, sold me 5 mobile phones, pay half now half later. I had email contact with a mario torrini who claimed to work for them, wired half to Diana Duma via sacrofeneze!!! they then wanted all money up front so i pulled the plug, and never heard from them again. Do not deal with anybody called Diana Duma or Mario Torrini. Complete Scammers

BEWARE !!!

There is something new going on i was on my way to loose 750$ but then i thought 750$ for 5 Nokia 9500 how can that be so i looked around a bit an found this site here and look what i found.

Posted by: Ailen Cruz on July 31, 2004 01:32 PM
I am the newest of the conned.. Ive just been conned out of £600 for a laptop. from a guy in Roma, Italy. His details are; Venanteti Larisa via Tuscolana 12 (Which is a Hotel Villa) Roma 01188 ITALY Tel-0040741395815 (give him a call and give him some abuse) Email - paulpeneo@hotmail.com if anyone has any information let me know!

That's is the same adress that i was supposed to send my money to . That guy is at alibaba.com the Company name is CAssini COmpany selling Phones and other shit . Beware of the following emails an persons

This is the person for the first contact
Sender Name: Mr Cassini Francesca
Company: Cassini Company
Country: Italy
City: Roma
Address: Via Tuscolana 12
E-mail: workdeals@hotmail.com
he also has the name "Paul Lypeno"

and that is the bitch that you are supposd to send money to
Alina Dinu
Via Tuscolana 12
Roma
01188
Italy

Keep an Eye open for any offers from a Man named Charles Mozon or Claude Stueman. If they have an email name Baleguta@hotmail.com do not buy from them. I just got scammed out of $700 dollars for a laptop I never recieved and there excuse was someone must have picked it up using a fake I.D. dont send money through western union. Bad Idea

Hello.
Had I not been victemized, I would not atumbled in this site. Just a few days ago, I emailed a seller in ebay to ask question about a laptop listed in auction. ebay ID smithmateweus. This guy contacted me via yahoo IM and ask my best price, to make the story short we agreed a price of PHP35000.00 (USD630). Minutes later I got an email from ebay safetransaction assuring my purshase along with the instruction whome & where to send the payment. Too bad, I already sent the money thru westernunion MTCN 8955880097. Yahoo ID smithmateweus. Seller's payment address: Pascalo Luca, Address: Via Sacrofaneze 28, Roma Italy.

I was just scammed yesterday of about $1,600.00 worth of laptops from an eBay seller. I got ripped off! I was led to believe eBay was managing the whole transaction, but as it turned out, everything was fraudulent...even with the supposed eBay notification of the Buy It Now option, as well as a supposed eBay endorsement of the seller as a Power Seller. Funny when I looked at his feedback, he was only an eBay member for a day. He even sent a fake Shipment Confirmation from Federal Express to make me close the payment. This guy was very good. I saw in one of the comments I read here the same address the guy used on me. It was so traumatic because it was hard-earned money. But I believe the day of reckoning for these cheats will come in a way they will regret for the rest of their lives. I believe what you sow is what you will reap.

Now that I have read the facts that there is massive fraud in eBay, it makes me want to go and take Marty McFly's DeLorean and go back to the past and stop myself from asking a question to this fraudulent eBay seller. Can we stop guys like these? I have the suspicion that they are a big network of scammers out there. I hope something can be done about these misfits.

Jordan Cristine, Pascalo Alexander, Pascalo Luca, etc...
Via Sacrofaneze 25 or 28, Roma 01188 Italy

Can't Western Union be informed of the frauds' above address? It seems that these cheats have a big, organized system going on. Western Union should also have a list of addresses that have been used for fraudulent dealings, so they can also stop from being used.

Western does not care if people get scammed, as long as they get thier money. They might care when someone sues them. I think those scammed should come together file a class action suit for millions to develop a national website for listing and researching scammers.

found this on alibaba.com dont no if its a scam or not so i ask you guy.

was a sale for mobile phones.

Maria Duca
address:Via sacrofaneze
zip:01188
city:Roma
country:Italy

the location and zip code is the same as the ones i found on this site. is this a scam?

Watch out for Fafabengosito@aol. He tried to run a scam and almost got 3000 out of me until I came to this website and found the truth. US-Freightmaster is fake website. He gave me a tracking number and all, but after a little research...found out that the company doesn't exist and there have been other scams exactly like this. He said his real name is Steven Mandel from 13 Mill St West London, UK. Not sure if it's his real name, but that's the info he gave for the western union transaction. BEWARE

I'm a Victim from:
Fabio Alex, Via Casilina 30, 00100 Rome

I have descovered that Fabio Alex use the "Via Sacrofaneze" address, too.

there is a guy who tries to sell me a apple ibook for 480 dollars and said he will use escrow service such as "TNT" but yeah, dont have a web address for it
also the address is
Name: Lucateli Paula
Address : Montegioca 55
City : Roma
Zip code : 01188
Country : Italy
i had doubts about the sale all the way, i asked him such an item on ebay could at least sell for 700 dollars minimum, he replied because "he sell too fast" yeah, i make payment in like 3 days, the auction is about 3 days, how fast could it be, loll
i am seeking to take legal actions against him, i will definitely report him to ebay, if he doesnt get me a response as to why he is trying to scam me, i will report him to FBI, my father works for FBI so no problem. and any other fraud agencies

SCAM WARNINING

KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS PERSON IS SCAMMER. MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH HIM. HE IS FROM ROMANIA

NAME: Leroy Decoda
EMAIL Address: leroydecoda222@yahoo.com

Hi everybody! I reached on this site after a Google search of my hometown, Rm-Valcea, Romania, and I am horrified seing what some of my co-citizens are doing. I never knew before how many e-thieves we have here, but now I start to understand why almoust everybody in the civilised world has such a bad impression about the romanians.Unfortunatelly, those low lives are making you all think of all romanians in the same way. I know it doesn't help you, but you should know they are a minority, NOT ALL ROMANIANS ARE THIEVES, we are also, verry often, their victims. What I could suggest to you, since some of you managed to locate some of the criminals, is to provide all these data to the romanian police, wich has a E-crime division. I don't know right now their's adress, but if anybody needs it, just e-mail me and I will find it for you.
I am verry ashamed to be compared to those scum-bags, since I am, like many other romanians, an honest person, working hard to earn my money.

IS THIS e-bay user from ROMANIA 'luckywaterworksinc'[Namsomn36@aol.com] FOR REAL ?

My name is Viorel Muscan.In order to end this deal in good terms i am going to
tell you some things that i want to follow:
1.It is better for you to know that the item is
brand new it has never been opened, have international warranty
provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need.
2. SHIPPMENT ---this is a thing about you shouldn't
worry about because i belive that it is my responasability to
deliver it to your home.We can do it through
-UPS overnighted
It will take one day and a half for the package to arrive to
your door.The shipping costs will be paid by me and i will also pay for the
insurance in case of any damage happens during the handling and shipping,so
i will be protected in case of damages and you too.
3.THE WAY TO PAY ---as a payment method i have
chosen WesternUnion's services because they always served our
interests in a professional manner and helped us gain buyers. i consider
promptitude a vital condition on the modern e-Commerce markets and a
guarantee of quality. To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to a
Western Union office and send the money from your name and address to my name
and address .Here are the details that you need for the money transfer:
First name:Viorel
Last:Muscan
Address: sihlea # 212
City:Patirlagele
State:Buzau
Country:Romania
Please be carrefull with my first and last name.
For sending the money you must find a western union agent location and send the money from there because western union don't send the money online in Romania
After that, you will recive an confirmation number and
I want you to send me the folowing details :
-the sender name
-the sender address
-the amount
-MTCN (money transfer control number)
4. REFOUND ---After the package arrives you have an
7 days period in which you can send the package back for an full and NO QUESTION
refound,but you will pay for the shipping and handlling back to me.
5.TAXES ---There may be some customs duties for you to pay, but if you
wish we can avoid them (if any):
ME --i have to declare the item as a gift for you and in this way you will pay NO costum fees and you will receive the item very fast.
YOU--have to declare at Western Union that you send the money to a friend in Romania that need this money, in this way when our deal
will be finished and i get the money from W.U. without problems.
Please let me know when you can make the payment and after this i will start the delivery process.
I hope you agree my terms and we will close this deal
sucessfully.
I look forward hearing from you.
Thanks!

luckywaterworksinc is Innocent

It seems e-bay users account has been comprised ...there are some romanians and other guys who hijack other ppl login ids and use them to advertise their non-existing product the most famoues listing is for 'Acer Ferrari Laptop.'

sorry for the previous post, this user 'luckywaterworksinc' is a innocent victim of these scamsters.

Never deal with anybody who advertise their e-mail ids in e-bay!! These guys r probably after your identity and might rip you off

Viorel Muscan is an ebay thief don't deal with him and don't deal by mail (it is his process).
In general thiefs want to be paid only in western union > so no deal!

i was going to buy from viorel muscan because his rating was so high.. i even talked to an ebay guy and he said he was fine, but i dont think i want to send a thousand bucks to romania to a guy that i dont know if i can trust or not. are you sure he's bad?

Hi guys,
Someone just scammed me ...Think from which country Again Romania.I found his e-mail ( I said his because I spoke with him via GSM ) from e-bay offers.I paid just 80$ for the first part of our transaction.But he just sent me a fake scanned paper from Ups Air Express.Never trust anyone from Romania.They are shits of this world.No honour no justice from all.
Here is the info about him.

Be away from him :
Name:Vasilichia Ion Adrian
Adress:Avram Iancu nr 89
City: Dragasani
Country: Romania
gsm:0040742877462
Zipp Code: 245700
email:ebay_rom@yahoo.com

Voirel Muscan phone 0114072066917

Hey everyone, this goes out to everyone weary about buying from a guy who's name is "Viorel Muscan" from yep, u guessed it..Romania. his aol screen name is: ristrincy23@aol.com he uses multiple e-bay idedntites to sell B.S. items.. including ones with high seller ratings, I know this cause I got suckered by him, yea I fell for it, I guess sometimes I have a little to much faith in people and that's one of the reasons why i'm posting this. to aid in preventing other good people like me from getting suckered by this poor excuse of a human being. does anyone know of a solid way that I can report this guy and try to shut down his operation? any input would be greatly appreciated..

VIOREL MUSCAN - THIEF - DO NOT PURCHASE !!

I just got done by this Romanian motherfucker for $1000US to purchase a sony video camera.

Seemed very legit until he got the cash and i never heard from him again, disconnected his email and disappeared....

VIOREL MUSCAN IS AN ARSEHOLE.. DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM. YOU WILL GET RIPPED OFF.

I googled ristrincy23 @ aol.com and this website came up:
http://ebarnak.free.fr/non_inscrit/txt/alienware.txt
does anyone know what this is?
his Email address shows up more than once with a 10 digit number next to them.

Viorel is up to his old tricks again. It seems he hijacked an Italian Ebayer's account to list cheap Apple computers...he even has a fake friend in a fake ebay office
"HI
Yes is true that i bought 5 units  from baltag@aol.com and i have sent the money thru Western Union in Romania.
Fast and easy transaction, as decribed, honest and excellent seller.
Delivery time 2 days .Recommend
 
Thank you

Micos Benjamin  
518 South Magnolia Ave.
Anaheim, CA 92804
ebay.Inc"
From email address:
"Micos Benjamin ebay.Inc"

After Ebay pulled the auctions, I contacted him and he gave me this response
"I have stoped the auction because I have so many offers from different ebayers and I
dont know who is who and what item wants everyone.I get more and more confused...
If you want the item , please mail me soon and we will have a deal.
Thank you "

When I asked him about his sketchy location he wrote this
I'm registred in diffrend coutries,cause I'm working for an worldwide elecronic company.please let me know.
please look at my feedback profile ..i 100 % positive feedback and i don't want to dissapoint you...I I am not a scam artist, and the last thing I want to do is rob you.
I am a very honest man honest in every aspect of my life and like to believe that we have a mutual trust.look i live by the rules ...money to me is nothing in life it the trust that it count ,
If you try to scam somebody in life, later on life will scam you back.
I promise, you won't be dissapointed. I am a man of my word.You can count on me.About our deal I assume we are 2 mature persons who want to make a fair deal.
I understand you are a little concerned from this point of view but this is not the case.I am a very good ebayer with a very good rating and my interest is to have very good deals on ebay so
i can have in the future good deals.If i will make with you a good deal,you will recommend me ,maybe ,to your friends or to other persons.For me it is very important to have permanent deals on ebay,
any negatice deal will not make good to me.That explain the low price.More,i will provide 15 days money back warranty,i mean ,if in 15 days you will change your mind you will resend the item to me on my expenses.I think this is more than fair.
But i need to provide me the payment confirmation, prior to shipping in order to make the shippment.I hope you can understad me and also,i hope we can finalize this deal in the best manner.
You will have my personal quarentee you will receive the item immediately without questions... i promise.
i don't sell my reputation even for 1 milion $.think about it."

I agreed to go ahead, though I knew it was a scam...he sent me these directions:
My name is Viorel Muscan .In order to end this deal in good terms i am going to
tell you some things that i want to follow:
1.It is better for you to know that the item is
brand new it has never been opened, have international warranty
provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need.
2. SHIPPMENT ---this is a thing about you shouldn't
worry about because i belive that it is my responasability to
deliver it to your home.We can do it through
-UPS overnighted
It will take one day and a half for the package to arrive to
your door.The shipping costs will be paid by me and i will also pay for the
insurance in case of any damage happens during the handling and shipping,so
i will be protected in case of damages and you too.
3.THE WAY TO PAY ---as a payment method i have
chosen WesternUnion's services because they always served our
interests in a professional manner and helped us gain buyers. i consider
promptitude a vital condition on the modern e-Commerce markets and a
guarantee of quality. To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to a
Western Union office and send the money from your name and address to my name
and address .Here are the details that you need for the money transfer:

First:Viorel
Second:Muscan
City:Chiojdu
State:Buzau
zipcode:6100
Country:Romania

Please be carrefull with my first and last name.
For sending the money you must find a western union agent location and send the money from there because western union don't

send the money online in Romania
After that, you will recive an confirmation number and
I want you to send me the folowing details :
-the sender name
-the sender address
-the amount
-MTCN (money transfer control number)
4. REFOUND ---After the package arrives you have an 7 days period in which you can send the package back for an full and NO

QUESTION refound,but you will pay for the shipping and handlling back to me.
5.TAXES ---There may be some customs duties for you to pay, but if you
wish we can avoid them (if any):
ME --i have to declare the item as a gift for you and in this way you will pay NO costum fees and you will receive the item

very fast.
YOU--have to declare at Western Union that you send the money to a friend in Romania that need this money, in this way when

our deal will be finished and i get the money from W.U. without problems.
Please let me know when you can make the payment and after this i will start the delivery process.
I hope you agree my terms and we will close this deal
sucessfully.
I look forward hearing from you.
Thanks!
I googled his name and landed here...I hope this new info helps someone from getting scammed

"if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is"

Has anyone been ripped off by Alibaba members.

I noticed your coments.
I'm from Romania and indeed there are many that are steling from you.

did you ever ask why?
i'll answer because you are much like them, lookin for cheep deals. Wana buy somethin, go to the store. You just encurage them.
Soon the new romanian gouvernement will presure them to quit doing that beacuse as you know the digital proof isent accceptet in any innstance.

Stop whining abaout it's only your fault.
Btw i'm from Rm Valcea, this city looks after 5 years of scuming like Monte Carlo, you should see the cars that are here. But remeber you cant blame a whole nation for 200 smart guy and 5 milions "belivers".
And dont bite the text "romania it's a poor country".

10x dont reply here because i wont follot this topic, you cant reply at vio1980@yahoo.com

PS I'm no scumer, i'm young politician hopin one day all will go right, kinda optimist you should be to.

First:Viorel
Second:Muscan
City:Chiojdu
State:Buzau
zipcode:6100
Country:Romania
phone# :0040722788332

thank god for this website, i was getting ready to send him money tomorrow. god i love the internet and all of you people who posted. this guy is a phony, if youre reading this, im glad you found this website. and hopefully before you sent any money :( i was so close to getting ripped off, thank God.

Viorel Muscan is at it again... he's listing so many things on ebay with stolen ids and asking people to email him personally for the "buy it now" price. He's using so many email address and one of them is twe654@aol.com

Do not wire him any money. Do not use Western Union to wire him money to Romania. He will block your email address once he received your money and you won't be able to contact him unless you use a differnt email address to contact him and he will reply right away.

Wow!
i was close to bye a Canon Camera...
i'm from Germany, mayby i should travel there, and pick it up directly...

... or kick his ass.

e su ebay...cercate dei pioneer cdj 1000...vedete quante sue inserzione ci sono!con nomi diversi e oggetti differento...bici,computer,casse bose..ecc.ecc....grazie a voi non mi sono fatto truffare da sto cazzo di ladro!!! Viorel Muscan e' UN TRUFFATORE BASTARDO!!!NON FIDATEVI!!!NON COMPRATE NIENTE DA LUI!!!.....il suo messaggio dopo che avevo deciso di predere due cdj1000......
My name is Viorel Muscan.In order to end this deal in good terms i am going to
tell you some things that i want to follow:
1.It is better for you to know that the item is
brand new it has never been opened, have international warranty
provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need.
2. SHIPPMENT ---this is a thing about you shouldn't
worry about because i belive that it is my responasability to
deliver it to your home.We can do it through
-UPS overnighted
It will take one day and a half for the package to arrive to
your door.The shipping costs will be paid by me and i will also pay for the
insurance in case of any damage happens during the handling and shipping,so
i will be protected in case of damages and you too.
3.THE WAY TO PAY ---as a payment method i have
chosen WesternUnion's services because they always served our
interests in a professional manner and helped us gain buyers. i consider
promptitude a vital condition on the modern e-Commerce markets and a
guarantee of quality. To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to a
Western Union office and send the money from your name and address to my name
and address .Here are the details that you need for the money transfer:
First name:Viorel
Last:Muscan
Address: sihlea # 212
City:Patirlagele
State:Buzau
Country:Romania
Please be carrefull with my first and last name.
For sending the money you must find a western union agent location and send the money from there because western union don't send the money online in Romania
After that, you will recive an confirmation number and
I want you to send me the folowing details :
-the sender name
-the sender address
-the amount
-MTCN (money transfer control number)
4. REFOUND ---After the package arrives you have an
7 days period in which you can send the package back for an full and NO QUESTION
refound,but you will pay for the shipping and handlling back to me.
5.TAXES ---There may be some customs duties for you to pay, but if you
wish we can avoid them (if any):
ME --i have to declare the item as a gift for you and in this way you will pay NO costum fees and you will receive the item very fast.
YOU--have to declare at Western Union that you send the money to a friend in Romania that need this money, in this way when our deal
will be finished and i get the money from W.U. without problems.
Please let me know when you can make the payment and after this i will start the delivery process.
I hope you agree my terms and we will close this deal
sucessfully.
I look forward hearing from you.
Thanks!
MUSCAN....FUCK YOU!!!!
ciao Maick!

This guy is a piece of work. Now I know what is happening to all those accounts of the poor slobs who actually clicked on the link in those stupid spam emails claiming their ebay account would be de-activated.

Almost bought the Klipsch speakers from him. I have been watching this guy for the last few days... ebay is trying to keep him squelched, but they are always a few steps behind. Here is what is happening recently:

24 hour auctions. These include apple cinema displays, dell 24inch widscreen lcds, acer ferrari laptops, trek mountainbikes, klipsch speakers, alienware laptops, roland v-drum kits, plotter printers, all KINDS of stuff... usually 16 to 22 auctions at a time. The amount of money he is costing people on these hacked accounts is insane.

The auctions are up for about 2 to 4 hours before ebay finds them and yanks them down. Every auction has exactly the same template and all of them contain his email address, and all of them start at $1

The email addresses I have seen in the last few days include:

sinistratu@aol.com
bpas36@aol.com
b21fun@aol.com

He has used all kinds of ebay profiles... dozens of different names... all of them with 96% or better rating. It is likely these people's accounts are getting suspended by ebay in their half-assed way of policing things... spread the word about this guy, keep people away from his auctions.

There are other articles elsewhere about this guy and he has dozens of email addresses. I hope someone finds this guy and puts a freakin bullet in his head. I'm thinking about a trip to Romania for my anniversary anyhow...

Here's the info from bpas36@aol.com

My name is DORIN CATALIN COSTEA.In order to end this deal in good terms i am going to
tell you some things that i want to follow:
1.It is better for you to know that the item is
brand new it has never been opened, have international warranty
provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need.
2. SHIPPMENT ---this is a thing about you shouldn't
worry about because i belive that it is my responasability to
deliver it to your home.We can do it through
-UPS overnighted
It will take one day and a half for the package to arrive to
your door.The shipping costs will be paid by me and i will also pay for the
insurance in case of any damage happens during the handling and shipping,so
i will be protected in case of damages and you too.
3.THE WAY TO PAY ---as a payment method i have
chosen WesternUnion's services because they always served our
interests in a professional manner and helped us gain buyers. i consider
promptitude a vital condition on the modern e-Commerce markets and a
guarantee of quality. To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to a
Western Union office and send the money from your name and address to my name
and address .Here are the details that you need for the money transfer:
First name:DORIN CATALIN
Last:COSTEA
Address: MIRON COSTIN # 212
City:ARAD
State:ARAD
Country:Romania
Please be carrefull with my first and last name.
For sending the money you must find a western union agent location and send the money from there because western union don't send the money online in Romania
After that, you will recive an confirmation number and
I want you to send me the folowing details :
-the sender name
-the sender address
-the amount
-MTCN (money transfer control number)
4. REFOUND ---After the package arrives you have an
7 days period in which you can send the package back for an full and NO QUESTION
refound,but you will pay for the shipping and handlling back to me.
5.TAXES ---There may be some customs duties for you to pay, but if you
wish we can avoid them (if any):
ME --i have to declare the item as a gift for you and in this way you will pay NO costum fees and you will receive the item very fast.
YOU--have to declare at Western Union that you send the money to a friend in Romania that need this money, in this way when our deal
will be finished and i get the money from W.U. without problems.
Please let me know when you can make the payment and after this i will start the delivery process.
I hope you agree my terms and we will close this deal
sucessfully.
I look forward hearing from you.
Thanks!

I have actually talked to Viorel Muscan on the phone - he is, in fact, in Romania. I intended to keep it very short to avoid outrageous long distance charges. I have not yet sent him any money, and I do not intend to until he can make a guarantee that I will receive the merchandise (a Nikon D2x). I have smelled a rat the whole time. I have been sort of playing around with him, I guess. Basically, what everyone needs to do is be smart - do your homework. A smart online transaction is just like one in the real world, before you give any money away, be very sure that you will receive the product (or be protected by your credit card, PayPal, etc.)

Yes, Viorel is a scam artist, but if you fell for his trap you can only blame yourself. You'll be smarter next time.

THIS IS AN EBAY AUCTION THAT IS GOING ON NOW. I have been emailing this guy many times. Sounds to good to be true. Im still thinking about it but seeing comments on this site changes my whole outlook and perspective.This is for a T43p Thinkpad for $800. IBM price is over $3,400.
Ive been threw all the e-mailsthat I have seen identicle to what I have received. My last one I wrote was: I hope I will receive my unit at my doorstep. $800 is alot of money. PROMISE me I will receive the T43p.

And He Wrote Back:

I am a very honest man honest in every aspect of my life and like to believe that we have a mutual trust.look i live by the rules ...money to me is nothing in life it the trust that it count ,
If you try to scam somebody in life, later on life will scam you back.
I promise, you won't be dissapointed. I am a man of my word.You can count on me.About our deal I assume we are 2 mature persons who want to make a fair deal.
I understand you are alittle concerned from this point of view but this is not the case.I am a very good ebayer with a very good rating and my interest is to have very good deals on ebay so i can have in the future good deals.If i will make with you a good deal,you will recommend me ,maybe ,to your friends or to other persons.For me it is very important to have permanent deals on ebay,any negatice deal will not make good to me.More,i will provide 15 days money back warranty,i mean ,if in 15 days you will change your mind you will resend the item to me on my expenses.I think this is more than fair.
But i need to provide me the payment confirmation, prior to shipping in order to make the shippment.I hope you can understad me and also,i hope we can finalize this deal in the best manner.
You will have my personal quarentee you will receive the item immediately without questions... i promise.
i keep my word in every part of this deal..

AFTER SEEING THIS SITE, MY LAST EMAIL TO HIM WILL BE MY LAST! Thank You people for all!

His recent e-mail addresses are:
Piu56@aol.com
Yje90@aol.com

and of coarse his eBay main man:

Micos Benjamin
518 South Magnolia Ave.
Anaheim, CA 92804
ebay.Inc

Thanks again everyone!

this guy gave me that same message, so i sent him the money... but never got my laptop. he told me his name was Viorel Muscan... so dont buy from him!

Once again people, Viorel Muscan is up and going. This is what he recently wrote to me:

Here are the details that you need for the money transfer:

First:Viorel
Second:Muscan
City:Chiojdu
State:Buzau
Country:Romania

Please be carrefull with my first and last name.
For sending the money you must find a western union agent location and send the money from there because western union don't send the money online in Romania
After that, you will recive an confirmation number and
I want you to send me the folowing details :
-the sender name
-the sender address
-the amount
-MTCN (money transfer control number)
4. REFOUND ---After the package arrives you have an 7 days period in which you can send the package back for an full and NO
QUESTION refound,but you will pay for the shipping and handlling back to me.
5.TAXES ---There may be some customs duties for you to pay, but if you
wish we can avoid them (if any):
ME --i have to declare the item as a gift for you and in this way you will pay NO costum fees and you will receive the item very fast.
YOU--have to declare at Western Union that you send the money to a friend in Romania that need this money, in this way when
our deal will be finished and i get the money from W.U. without problems.
Please let me know when you can make the payment and after this i will start the delivery process.
I hope you agree my terms and we will close this deal
sucessfully.
I look forward hearing from you.
Thanks!

Then after, he writes me another one:

My name is Tudor Victor .In order to end this deal in good terms i am going to
tell you some things that i want to follow:
1.GENERAL INFO- It is better for you to know that the item is
brand new it has never been opened, have international warranty
provided by the factory and come with all accesories that you need.
2. SHIPPMENT ---this is a thing about you shouldn't
worry about because i belive that it is my responasability to
deliver it to your home.We can do it through
-UPS overnighted
It will take one day and a half for the package to arrive to
your door.The shipping costs will be paid by me and i will also pay for the
insurance in case of any damage happens during the handling and shipping,so
i will be protected in case of damages and you too.
3.THE WAY TO PAY ---as a payment method i have
chosen WesternUnion's services because they always served our
interests in a professional manner and helped us gain buyers. i consider
promptitude a vital condition on the modern e-Commerce markets and a
guarantee of quality. To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to a
Western Union office and send the money from your name and address to my name
and address .Here are the details that you need for the money transfer:

First:Tudor
Second:Victor
street:Baia Doamnei #323
City:Smeeni
State:Buzau
Country:Romania

Please be carrefull with my first and last name.
For sending the money you must find a western union agent location and send the money from there because western union don't send the money online in Romania
After that, you will recive an confirmation number and
I want you to send me the folowing details :
-the sender name
-the sender address
-the amount
-MTCN (money transfer control number)
4. REFOUND ---After the package arrives you have an 7 days period in which you can send the package back for an full and NO
QUESTION refound,but you will pay for the shipping and handlling back to me.
5.TAXES ---There may be some customs duties for you to pay, but if you
wish we can avoid them (if any):
ME --i have to declare the item as a gift for you and in this way you will pay NO costum fees and you will receive the item very fast.
YOU--have to declare at Western Union that you send the money to a friend in Romania that need this money, in this way when
our deal will be finished and i get the money from W.U. without problems.
Please let me know when you can make the payment and after this i will start the delivery process.
I hope you agree my terms and we will close this deal
sucessfully.
I look forward hearing from you.
Thanks!

Dont you guys think there a law suit can be placed against western union??

Ya, I was conned as well by Viorel Muscan. Seriously, this guy sucks. He needs to go to jail.

hej i wantedt to buy from this guy that sels cheap phones , but i did some rechearche first ant i discovered he is a asshole that set things up, then i recearched the email he wrote me ant i discoverd from where he opperates,
i just typed his ip number at google and this website came out: first what he wrote
Dear sir,

We accept for payment Western union because is bank service and the transfer take only 10 minutes. Using this service for payment you will transfer the money and in 10 minutes will be available. After this time we will send you the phones and in 24 hours the goods will arrive to your adress. If you will transfer the money via "bank transfer" this will take 5 days and other one day until the phones will arrive to you. So the deal will take 6 days. This is the reason we prefer for payment Western union.
You must understand that we have no reason to don`t send you the phones because this is our business and we want to find trusting peoples (parteners) in all the countryes. So if you will start buying from us you will be our trust partener in your country and you can buy from us with the payment in 30 days. This offer is for our trust parteners who closed one deal with us. So only after you will close this first deal with us you will get this offer with the payment after 30 days.
So please go at Western Union and transfer us 1800 Euro for 25 phones and we assure you that in maxim 24 hours you will get the phones at your adress. After that you will be our trust partener (if you are interested) and you can buy any quantity from us and the payment will be in 30 days. In this time you will can resell the phones and the money will be not a problem.
We wait for the MTCN and Sender`s name and adress so we can start our first business and we hope that you will like to estabilish a long business relationship!
Best regards and have a nice day!
(his email is designer_phones@hotmail.com)
(he opperates from ip 194.176.189.62)
Name: Mandoiu Nicolae Gabriel
Adress: Aleea Trandafirilor
City: Dragasani
State: Valcea
Zip/Code: 245700
Contry: Romania
when you typ in this ip number at the internet brouwser jou wel get a site of a internet shop where he opperates from!

I've gotten screwed HARD...The guy in Romnia selling computers is using my F*cking name as that stupid ebay inc thing and, all this is falling on me. I got screwed when i delt with this guy buying a Area 5100m laptop and i cancelled everything when i had second thoughts...Now i see my name under this ebay crap and its SERIOUSLY PISSING ME OFF...IF ANYONE SEES MY NAME ON AN ITEM WITH A BOUGUS DEAL ON IT AND SHOWS THAT THE ITEM IS IN ROMNIA PLEASE DO NOT BID OR DEAL WITH THIS PERSON ON THE ITEM. I'M DOING ALL I CAN TO GET MY NAME OUT OF THIS SITUATION....

Hello
This is the situation and what has happened to me... I recieved an email from "Best Phones Group" who were going to offer me a deal on 20 nokia n90 for $2900. The deal was that i would pay $1450 up front , they would send the phones and then i would make the payment of the other half of $1450. When i made the payment , they then proceeded to tell me that they could not send the phones til the second half of the payment was made. Once this was then paid,they made another excuse and said that it was an error on their behalf and they had accidently sent 40 hones in the package and that i had the option to pay them another $2400 ( in 2 instalments of $1200) and then i could recieve the phones. I couldnt come up with that money and asked them for a refund. ( As i thought if i had the refund i wouldnt have the trouble and fuss with them anymore and i could deal directly with you) So i requested the email and since that email, they have not replied and i have been tring to ring them and they are unreachable and the mobile is always switched off. Could you please help me with how/who i could contact (email /ring) or what could be done so that i can get my money back.

The guy who has taken my moneys ($2900 AU) details are :

Company name: Best Phones Group
Guys Name : Mandoiu Nicolae Gabriel
adress: Tudor Vladimirescu
city: Dragasani
state: Valcea
zipp code: 245700
country: Romania
phone number: 0040729275281
website : www.bestphonesgroup.3x.ro
email address : designer_phones@hotmail.com
segah_phones_offer@hotmail.com
Computer Ip Address : 194.176.189.62

When money was collected it was collected from Bucharest.

It would be greatly appreciated if you could get back to me as soon as possible with details on what I could do to settle this and get my money back.

Best Wishes
Kerry

F*cking hell, this stupid Romanian dickhead, THANKS GUYS! I was so close to losing all my laptop savings because of this knob.

His latest email address is:

Fruy25@aol.com
Cheers guys.

Hi guys,

This guy is back (Mandoiu Nicolae Gabriel), now selling world cup tickets for Germany 2006. He's saying he's got all 10 tickets for Australia v Japan, 10 tickets for Brazil v Australia, 10 tickets for Australi v Croatia and 10 tickets to the final in Berlin all in the best category (1 being the best) for get this $AU 7300.00.

Now each tickets works out to be something like $AU 182.50 a ticket. The final in Berlin alone for a Catergory 1 ticket is worth 600 Euro according to the FIFA ticketing scheme. He's pretending to be a FIFA agent. He's saying and i quote from an email i received "For the payment FIFA accepts only banking services like Money Gram or Western Union (international money tranfer service) because it is the only one who can satisfy both us and our clients by their banking background"

Having applied through FIFA myself during the first phase of ticket sales, FIFA only accept "6. How do I pay for match tickets?
MasterCard is the Exclusive Payment Card of the 2006 FIFA World Cup Germany™. In the first four sales periods, only MasterCard card products will be accepted as a means for payment by card. The following methods of payment will also be accepted: direct debit for customers with a German bank account, and bank transfer for customers outside Germany not holding a German bank account.

Special Rules for Bank Transfer for Non-Eurozone EEA Residents:

Non-Eurozone EEA residents of the following countries: the Czech Republic, Denmark, Norway, Poland, Sweden, United Kingdom, may pay for their tickets by bank transfer in their respective local currency into the DFB’s bank account in their country of residence. The details of these bank accounts and information concerning bank transfer will be communicated when payment is required.Non-Eurozone EEA residents of the following countries: Cyprus, Estonia, Hungary, Iceland, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malta, Slovakia, Slovenia may pay for their tickets by bank transfer in their respective local currency into the DFB’s bank account in Frankfurt, Germany. The details of this bank account and information concerning bank transfer will be communicated when payment is required. "

This deal sound like a deal of a lifetime, but he his posting as Roberta Gilili of Toorak, Melbourne, Australia. He tries to suck you in by telling you the more tickets you buy the larger the discount. Shipping is free of course! (even though FIFA charge 25 Euro per application...)

He also tries to fake the tranfer of names in which only FIFA can do. " All tickets will be printed and registered on your name and adress imediatly after the payment is checked by the FIFA agent." ( i like to include his spelling mistakes also!)

He futher says " For the registration of tickets on your name FIFA need the follow details and documents:
Full Name (as per passport)
Nationality
Passport number
Passport Issuing Country
Date of Birth
Western Union"

This is no bullshit, word for word from his email! He finally ends the email with this last paragraph "Western Union payment receipt (to prouve that the tickets was payed).
Please let us know as soon as you are willing to start the deal so we can tell you the details for the payment and shipping process and the agent's name who's going to supervise your deal.
Best regards and have a nice day!"

After the first initial email expressing interest, we asked for more information a name and contact no. and we got a response immdiately

Dear sir,

This is my phone number where you can call me reagrding the tickets: 0040729522261.
My name is Mandoiu Nicolae Gabriel.
I wait for your contact so i can start the deal with you!
Thank you!

After calling the international operator to find out what country this telephone number was from i was quickly informed that it was Romania.

I decided to google his name and was surprised immediately as soon as the exact name came up on the screen.

Me and friend decided to call this bloke, and see what his caper was. He told us that he was the FIFA agent. We told him we had interest in only the Australia games and the price was dramatically reduced to $AU 5300.00 A nice even $AU 2000.00 was cut from the original price. I find it very hard to believe that the 10 Final tickets were only $2000.00. We asked him a range of questions which he couldn't answer us (broken english, but somehow his email was pretty well written (a few spelling mistakes! a bit funny don't you think!) Got off the phone quick smart, and sent him an email

Dear sir,

Could you please respond to the following issue that i raised with you earlier:

* Who is Roberta Gallili? What is her role in this deal?
* Are these tickets sponsor tickets?
* Why do you only accept Western Union and Money Gram? We unable to pay through that system. Pay pal is our prefered and only way.
* Who is the fifa agent and when is the cut off for transfers on ticket? (he should know the date!!)
* Does the Fifa agent have a license no.? Important?

Could you please respond to us today, so we can start the deal.

thanks

D

I forgot to ask the following questions:
Dear sir,

a couple more qusetions that i forgot to mention.

* What is your company called.
* Will we transfer the money to your name or your company name?
* Is you offer still on Ebay (if can we have the item No.)

thanks again

D

These fuckwits post 24 hour listings to try catch you out. Anyone purchasing World Cup tickets for Geramny 2006 through E-bay be careful, because the packages look very tempting.

Go to a yahoo ticketing agent like ww.razorgator.com who are fifa agents for the world cup. They are very pricey tickets but at least you are guaranteed to get them.

Cheers

Epi

hello,
there is a seller on ebay who is selling really cheap cell phones and is willing to use paypal.
these phones are 50% cheaper than regular price.
Is there a way they can scam me in paypal.
I would really appreciated your help.
Thank You
Waqas

Hi, I am selling this prize I won on e-bay with the opening bid at $9,999.00. The prize is worth $75,000. What is a good site to register for escrow so the buyer can have time to verify my confirmation letter when the bid is over? I have had an account on e-bay for awhile but this is the first time I have used it and I'm not trying to con anyone. I won this prize legitimately and I want to help insure to the buyer I am not trying to be fraudulent in the transaction. Thanks! You can view it on e-bay. It's a package trip to Atlantis casino staying in the Bridge Suite.

see this www.rou-scammer.com

We accept sugestions and complaints for this type of scam too.
www.rou-scammer.com

careful of the Mandoiu Nicolae Babriel, he scammed me of $200 Aus. I know its not much but he has chosen the wrong person to mess with :) So far throough contacts and people i know i have a lor of information on him. He will learn his leason soon

Fortis Escrow IS THIS COMPANY FOR REAL
AND CAN TRUST IT

I have just had a dealing with srsbhj41@yahoo.co.uk who apparently is in hungary and he was trying to obtain £8800 for a BMW after seeing this site i put a read notify on his email which showed that the email was going through USA and then being transfered to Slough UK we also put a read notify on the email we had received from (Fortis Escrow?) but when reading the email it was from sales@fortis-info.com we found this email was going through Romania. We have contacted Fortis Escrow (the real one) and they didn`t even take details they just advised it was a scam as they only deal with large business to business contracts (50,000 euros and above) so if you are doing any transaction through an escrow site please track all emails and be very careful of these pigs.

IM ABOUT TO BUY A CAR FROM HUNGARY - SHIPPED TO UK FOR VERY GOOD PRICE. SELLER WISHES TO USE FORTIS ESCROW FROM MY PAYMENT. IS THIS SAFE AS IVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND IF NOT PLEASE RECOMMEND SECURE PAYMENT. THANKS

This story sounds just like a car i am being offered from Hungary.

It is a Mini Cooper S 2006, and they are suggesting using Fortis Escrow.

Is this the same as you are looking at ?

This appears to have all the hallmarks of a scam.

I would not trust it.

Martin

Fortis Escrow does not deal with private transactions, such as car purchases, I am dealing with a seller trying to use Fortis Escrow and i found the company online and emailed them. They said to beware, the seller is more than likely fraudulent. Fortis Escrow only deals with business to business deals. Be cautious, there has to be something done about these people trying to scam.

I'm being offered a Passat from Hungary with very nice conditions. The seller wishes to use Fortis Escrow. Thanks for valuable tips!

I'm in the middle of purchasing a canon xl1s from a guy called peter edwans and he wants to use online-safe-trading.com I'm pretty sure this is a scam, there are spelling mistakes on the website, the phone number is false. Let me know if you guys know anything but I'm pretty sure this is a scam.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE everyone be careful, in total I was about to be scammed for about £2000, and I can't belive how lucky I've been I'd wired the money but hadn't given them the code (something just seemed wrong). With regard to these escrow companies my warning light went on when they didn't appear when running them through search engines. Also the company wasn't listed with yell.co.uk (Yellow pages and just a listing is free with them) I found the best method was to e-mail them and ask to pick the item up directly (even when they were abroad I said I would travel and give them the money personally) and they instantly dismissed the option with things like 'oh I'm a pilot and don't know when I'm at home' etc.
Anyone that has been scammed or nearly so please contact me optionsplus@hotmail.com I work in film and I'm going to expose this so give me your stories and any info on these guys. We'll get this stopped and if we can recoup some of your losses that will make me feel good. Also If we can find a tv company to take up the option on the documentary I'll donate any profits made to anyone we feature. I'm so sorry to anyone that got scammed, let's do something about it. John Osborn

www.online-escrow is a total fraud. Just call the BBB and they'll confirm.

Im thinking this is a scam. Found an advertisement for a Mercedes at Carsonline.com. After emailing the person for further details, I received a story about the owner moving to Hungary and taking the car with him. Now he wants a left hand drive car so he kept the add in Australia going. He is willing to pay the shipping costs to get the car to us via Fortis Escrow and if we dont like the car when it gets here, we can have it shipped back at his expense!!! Sounds dodgy hey or Bargain of the century? Anita

Hello everyone,

Recently I got an offer of mobile phones from a Romanian company called Romextel SRL. The prices were quite good and the company promised to organise the delivery at their own expenses via UPS or DHL. It was really very strange, because the express mail services charges are very high so i was surprised that they agreed to pay the freight charge themselves. They even sent me a License which "was given" by the Romanian Palace of Industry.
I tried to look for that company online.
And it appeared that the company is fraud!!!
Here is what I found about them:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=724426#comments
They use different names of the company like Romextel or Mobilsate SRL or any other (it is not difficult to change the name)
They take the money and dont send anything.
Here is their information. Please be careful!!!
Their wiring info is (this was the bank info they sent to me, but you will find other wiring infos in the above link):
Bank's name: Banca Transilvania ( TRANSILVANIA BANK )
Bank account owner: Oliver Ion Militaru ( Full Name )
IBAN: RO38BTRL03902201A63360XX
Swift Code: BTRLRO22VLA
Bank address: Str. Stirbei Voda, Ramnicu Valcea, Valcea 1000
Country: ROMANIA

Their contact info is:
Company: RomEXTEL SRL
Contact Name: Dan Ionescu
Address:
Str. Albastra Nr. 1
Town: Ramnicu Valcea
City: Valcea 1000 (zip code)
Romania
E-mail: romextel@yahoo.com
Phone contact:
0040-728-551923 or +40-728-551923 - any time
0040-741-650622 or +40-741-650622

Please note, that there is no str. named Albastra in that city (you can check it on http://www.posta-romana.ro/index.jsp?page=adresa) as well as the zip code is wrong, as the Romanian zip codes consist of 5-6 digits and not 4.

Hope this info can be helpful for someone.

Regards
Lilit

one more thing:
the real name of that guy in romania must be Oliver Ion Militaru , as the bank accounts are being opened on the base of the passport information.
also, despite he contacted me on behalf of a company, he sent me a personal bank account and not a company bank account. When i informed him, that i would prefer to make the transfer to a company bank account, he informed that in Romania the accounts are being opened on persons only (how funny)...
by the way he speaks good English...
no way to fight such people??

Craigslist Used Car scam!! I was looking on craigslist in Sacramento and found a Lexus RX330 2004 for $7,000. I thought it was too good to be true and I should have stayed with my instinct. I contacted the seller and they called themselves "Tammy Wylson" and she said she moved to the UK and was getting a divorce and that was why she was selling the car for such a good price. She informed me that Fortis Escrow was the company who would deal with the transaction and all I needed to do was give them a deposit of 2,000 and they would send me the car and if I liked it to pay the rest 5,000. Well I did my reseach and there is a legitimate company called Fortis Escrow but they said no to set up any accounts via e-mail. I then got an e-mail from fortis-escrow-inc@consultant.com trying to set up an account with me. I then pulled out of the deal and wished the contacts a good time in hell because they are trying to steal peoples hard earned money. WATCH OUT FOR Tammy Wylson!!!

I had the saem scam tryin to be pulled on me but I realized like the day later that there was no way that kind of deal could be possible. I 2002 Evo with 13K miles for 8 grand, NO WAY!! So i just kept leadin them on and they still think theyre gonna get there money, Oh man these people never quit trying to take money right out of peoples pockets.

Had my ebay account stolen a few days ago. then they place an ad for a VW at a low price. I couldn't log in or contact the bidders to warn them. I contacted ebay and they cancelled the auction and restored my account to me.

The ad had an email address in it so I wrote to it and said I was interested in the car. They told me to use Fortis Escrow. I asked to see and test drive the car and that I would pay cash. They got really nasty right away. So I told them I knew what they were up to and told them I knew exactly where they were operating out of and that they better watch their back. I believe these cons speak French because my Paypal account starting getting messages all in french. Good luck everyone-don't use any escrow companies that aren't approved. Someone ought to put a warning or buying guide about this on Ebay and other sites.

Thanks guys,
I was about to use Fortis Escrow to buy a fully loaded Honda Accord. Thanks to previous posts I declined it because after searching for it on Google I found that the whole thing was a big fraud. The seller said she lived in UK and was going through a divorce. After almost going to making the payment I started researching and it ended up on a list of emails that were frauds.
Good luck guys, and don’t fall for this. I almost did!!! It was a big FRAUD...

We found a nice deal on a 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII. We thought that $7500 for a car that blue-booked at $26000 was too good to be true. After reading all these others postings, we now believe it is. The seller is going through Fortis Escrow, and swears up and down that the deal is legitimate. When I read a posting that Fortis Escrow only does business to business transactions, that sealed our decision!! No Evo for us!! At least not through that jerk.

"Charl Koenig" just posted a 2006 Toyota Prius on CL for $6000. Exact same deal, "getting a divorce," "Fortis Escrow," the whole shooting match. You can literally see the cut and past text in the emails I'm getting. Sub any other car model/seller's location.

BEWARE OF THE SCAMMERS POSTING FAKE CAR SALES AND SAYING THEY ARE FROM OUT OF THE COUNTRY. SEE BELOW. There is an alleged seller named Vincent currently scouting for victims on craigslist right now. I almost fell for it today and would have sent him $2900 as a deposit on a car, then I started googling about Fortis Escrow (which is a real and good legitimate company, but which scammers are falsely claiming to use for internet sales) but see Fortis Escrow's home page website -- they don't transact business this way and have a security alert on their homepage about it. See the real Fortis Escrow secutity alert at : http://www.fortis-escrow.com/ and read more information on these scams and testimonials at http://www.cronaca.com/archives/000196.html The ALLEGED SELLER VINCENT CLAIMS HE IS IN THE UK, GOING THROUGH A DIVORCE AND THAT I CANT SEE THE CAR IN PERSON AS IT IS IN FORTIS ESCROWS POSSESSION BUT THAT I CAN confirm that I will send my deposit through an email I received from Fortis Escrow. A few minutes later the email from Fortis Escrow arrived, but had no hyperlinks in it. I immediately thought it was suspicious and googled. Thank goodness I found this information on your site. Very valuable help indeed.

The exact same thing happened to me. I found a 2005 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 Double-cab on craigslist.com. This John Beiler (email address beiler_j37@yahoo.com) guy told me to send $2,500 to a Fortis Escrow "agent" via Western Union transfer to Fortis Escrow in the Netherlands. The truck was in a one of their warehouses in New York. As soon as they got the money they were going to ship the truck across the US (at no cost to us) and as soon as I seen it and liked it I would pay the remaining balance, or if I didn't like it then I would get my money, no questions asked. We asked him why he was selling the truck for so little and he said that he was getting a divorce over here in the US and was moving back to the UK. He supposedly couldn't bring the truck back with him and just didn't want his ex to get any of the money. So stupid me, I felt bad for him. Right after I sent the $2,500 they told me that I needed to send another $2,500 to another "agent" to keep the transaction going. Thats when I got suspicious, but it's too late now. I'm already out $2,500. That was the money that I was going to use to pay off me credit card.

Well what a coincendence I am in contact with a recent divocee named Felicia who has a great deal on a 2003 dodge truck 7500.00$ what a deal! I thought I'd follow alice through the looking glass for awhile to see where it went. Sure enough Fortis escrow via western union send money to liverpool UK . This stared with a craigslist posting. Thanks for this website and heads up people

WOW, i got some chills...Ok JP i found a 4x4 Dodge on Craigs List. Same exact story only it was a lady and her name was Felicia Heine. The story is so close in detail i can't believe it. If it's to good to be true....IT IS!!!

Wow, thank god i found this site. I was about to get taken for a fool too. Look what this asshole wrote to me, I found him selling a bmw x5 in the miami craig's list.

His name and email are: Scott Miscot [mailto:scottmiscott@gmail.com]

He writes the following, does it sound familiar?

Hi again,
Thank you for email me back.The car is in a warehouse of Fortis Escrow in US ( in New York), ready for delivery for new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- You will send me your full name and shipping address.

2- You will be contacted by Fortis Escrow with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2900 in to an Fortis Escrow agent account.
4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 48 hour at your address.

5-If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance 4000$. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. Fortis Escrow will refund you the deposit.

I will wait your full name and full address so i can open a case with Fortis Escrow regarding this deal.

Regards !

Scott

I hope he dies slow. Thanks to everyone in this site for the information, sorry to those who got scammed, i hope you recover your loses.

Carlos

shopping for a car from craigs list in new york.
i got the same story from a Mark Derrom

Hi again,
Thank you for email me back.I`m not in US for the moment and the pick it up option is not available... but i can ship you the car .There is nothing wrong with the car ... im selling the car at this price because i recently moved from US to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house over US and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .
The car is in a warehouse of Fortis Escrow in US ( in FORT MILLS SC), ready for delivery to a new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- I will need to send me your full legal name and shipping address.

2- This deal will go trough an Escrow company named FORTIS .You will be contacted by Fortis Escrow with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2700 in to an Fortis Escrow agent account.

4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 72 hours at your address.You will have
10 days test period to decide if you keep the car or not.I will put along with the car :keys, title, all the receipts that I have from it, owner's manual,
service manual, and also a sale receipt signed at a legal attorney stating that i'm selling you this car.

5-If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance 1500$. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. Fortis Escrow will refund you the deposit.
So I will wait your full name so i can open a case with Fortis Escrow regarding this deal.

Regards

Mark

BEWARE EVERYONE!

OMG. The letter above is almost exactly the same as the one I got! Well at least I took the time to do some research. Here is my email, bad grammar was part of the tip off...
Hello,
My name is Mark Derrom and i wana thank you for contacting me about the car that i have for sale.
About the car:
2005 BMW M3 with manual transmission it is in imaculate condition with 30300 miles and have the Vin number: wbsbl93465pn61894,rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one..The car is registered in US and it has clear title.I have legal document by which I can transfer the title to
your name.The price you will have to pay in order to own this vehicle is $5,700 USD with shipping costs included!

I want to take this opportunity to assure you that this deal is 100% legitimate,the financial part of this deal will be managed by FORTIS ESCROW,in this way both of us will be protected.They will keep the payment until you receive the car and test it.
- When you will receive the car you will have 10 days test period before the FORTIS ESCROW will send me the money.

So if you really want it please email me as soon as possible, and i will give you more details how to handle this transaction.
Regards,Mark

BUYER BEWARE...ALWAYS

Here's one that I've been in contact with. This individual posted a vehicle for sale on classified websites (www.craigslist.org). The following is his e-mail to me:
Hi again,
Thank you for email me back.The car is in a warehouse of Fortis Escrow in US ( in New York), ready for delivery from new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- You will send me your full name and shipping address.

2- You will be contacted by Fortis Escrow with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2900 in to an Fortis Escrow agent account.
4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 48 hour at your address.

5-If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance 4000$. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. Fortis Escrow will refund you the deposit.

I will wait your full name so i can open a case with Fortis Escrow regarding this deal.

Regards

Tomy
tomycalos@aol.com

I found the same thing. I searched on the supplied VIN and the car was for sale at an online dealer, obviously a big red flag!

Also beware of Company's from out of country offering you 10% of there revenue for cashing money orders for them. A company sent me 5 USPS money orders @ $839.00 each. They were very specific in wanting me to take them straight to the bank and cash them. They looked very real. I of course took them straight to the Post Office and turned them in. The name of this bogus Company is Marble Trading. The money orders were sent out of Florida. Beware they are counterfeit!
I did not get scammed, but you might! You should have a security line that says USPS on it and a picture that is very detailed when you hold it next to a light. The fake ones have both but, the security strip does not say USPS and the picture is not detailed. If you recieve any kind of money order or casheir's check have them inspected!

I was looking on pennlive.com the other day, looking for a car.. and came across this website selling a 98' honda accord ex for 35000,.. what a great deal huh? pshh yeah right!.. Looked kind of fishy, but i decided to test out the waters anyway..... 1) the accord model looked like a 2000 and up model due to the headlights, tail lights .. etc.. 2) the price was wayyy too good to be true 3)weird.. how there were palm trees in the backround.. PA deff. doesnt not have any palm trees.

SOOO a few days later i got an email form Derrom... yeahh that b@st@ard.. still looked fishy, and i didnt want to put my hard earned money into something that i wasn't too sure about... so i decided to google up FORTIS escrow and came across this websit.. the same email the you got.. saying almost the exact same thing.. whew, i felt saved.. the email said:

Hello,

My name is Mark Derrom and i want to say Sorry for the delayed response, but I'm in Hartpool (United Kingdom) right now and I have been very busy.Anyway,thank you for your interest in buying the car. The car is located in US right now and has US papers.Why is the price so low? im selling the car at this price because i recently moved from US to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house over US and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .I cannot register the car here, as it is made for USA, according to USA standards. So all that I want to do now is to sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast.The title is clean and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States. I will tell you a few words about the car..
My 1998 Honda Accord EX V6 Sedan with automatic transmission it is in imaculate condition with 82505 miles and have the Vin number: 1HGCG1658WA056256,rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one.I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. I already have tones of emails so I hope you understand that I need to sort them out. The car is like new, in perfect conditions,accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. a genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
The price is 3,500 USD $ THIS IS MY LAST PRICE.I will not negociate the price.I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interesed in buying the car ,to be sure that I don't waist my time with endless discussions.This way,I shall be assured of the serious intentions.So if you are interested please email me back.

Regards!!

Mark
and then i got::

Hi again,
Thank you for email me back.The car is in a warehouse of Fortis Escrow in US ( in FORT MILLS SC), ready for delivery to a new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- I will need to send me your full legal name and shipping address.

2- This deal will go trough an Escrow company named FORTIS .You will be contacted by Fortis Escrow with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2500 in to an Fortis Escrow agent account.
4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 72 hours at your address.You will have
10 days test period to decide if you keep the car or not.I will put along with the car :keys, title, all the receipts that I have from it, owner's manual,
service manual, and also a sale receipt signed at a legal attorney stating that i'm selling uoi this car.
5-If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance 1000$. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. Fortis Escrow will refund you the deposit.
So I will wait your full name so i can open a case with Fortis Escrow regarding this deal.

Regards

Mark

.. i'm speechless.. what a scum. should be in hell..

well goot luck everyone, be careful.

Mandoiu Nicolae Gabriel,
Aleea Trandafirilor,
Dragasani,
245700
Valcea,
Romania.

or Daniel Vorimer using hotmails as prodan_service and DHL Global shit
is not a person to buy things from internet.

He wanted to sell a tractor at Marktplaats.nl and wrote me that he would send it by DHL.
I should get an confirmation from DHL and must pay before the delivery by Western Union. The conformationmail from 'DHL' was of course a fake one made by himself and a child could see it but some people believe it. BEWARE!

I got the same exact email from that Mark guy. I was so excited because I was looking to buy my first car. I saw the add in a Virginia newspaper and instantly wanted it. He sent pics of the car and i fell in love with it. Later that day my dad got the same email telling how to deposit the money. I was still curious about how this Fortis escrow thing worked, so i googled it. I found this site last night. I'm so thrilled I did because we were going to deposit the money today. I was so caught up in getting my first car I almost threw away my hard earned money. Watch out people this Mark guy is bad news.

Does anyone know anything about Fortis Escrow - USA.
I am about to make a deal with a guy selling me his car. He wants me to put in $1000 to the escrow account, I get to inspect the carand drive it and if I like what I see. He hands over the papers, bill of sale etc. and I hand over the cash. If I don't he takes it back and escrow refunds my deposit.
Problem is he's in Edinborough Scotland at the moment and when I checked Fortis website they're registered in the Netherlands. I didn't see a Fortis Escrow USA. Anyone has comments on this?

hi my name is Danilo RIvas i never done this before but i just wanted to know if www.fortis-escrow.com is it a scam

This new software will identify the scammers and criminals:

Trust Assessor
http://software.i360.co.za/fb/light/

Found another scam, just like those listed above. Sent from 'nicolas' at nicolasroger37@aol.com

Hi again,

Thank you for email me back.The car is in a warehouse of Fortis Escrow in US ( in New York), ready for delivery for new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- You will send me your full name and shipping address.

2- You will be contacted by Fortis Escrow with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2900 in to an Fortis Escrow agent account.
4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will be delivery in 48 hour at your address.

5-If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance 4000$. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. Fortis Escrow will refund you the deposit.

I will wait your full name and full address so i can open a case with Fortis Escrow regarding this deal.

Regards !

Nicolas

stay away from this. Thanks to all for posting these warnings so others don't get scammed.

Anyone know if www.valen-market is a fraud escrow site, a buyer has contacted me and asked to use it?

These people are incredible! I got taken in this scam for Rugby World Cup tickets. I was contacted offering me tickets. He must have picked up my email from bids I had made on eBay. Be careful of this scam too.

Roberto Miron
Via Sacrofanese 25
Roma Italy 01188
0040742682339

Paid by Western Union. NO tickets & NO recourse.

I wish I had Googled this before I paid.

They must be laughing all the way to the bank at how stupid some of us are. I hope somebody finds them and puts them away or at least beats the
&%$# out of them.

Exact fake here from craiglist.

The guy called himself

Martin F.
Tragmuieferguson@aol.com

Great Site! I am so glad I found this before I made a fool out of myself! The emails and text above are exactly what was written to me by Martin F., poor guy going through some personal problems. Surely, the police should be involved in this and catch the SOB?

I guess the moral of the story is, if it's too good to be true - it's probably a fake.

Thank you for this website. I almost purchased a car
from "Fortis Escrow in US (in Fort Mills, SC)

I was on Craigs list two nites ago and seen a 2003 Honda Accord ES for $2800. I contacted the "seller" for information on this great deal. He stated the car was with Fortiss Escrow Company in Fort Mills South Carolina. After getting together with a friend and doing research, it brought me to this website. I lost nothing but a little time. Buyer beware!!

Thank you. Found a great deal on Craig's List for a 2002 Camry mint condition w/ everything for $3500. This is the email we got back from the seller Hi again,
Thank you for email me back.The car is in a warehouse of Fortis Escrow in US ( in FORT MILLS SC), ready for delivery to a new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- I will need to send me your full legal name and shipping address.

2- This deal will go trough an Escrow company named FORTIS .You will be contacted by Fortis Escrow with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2500 in to an Fortis Escrow agent account.

4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 72 hours at your address.You will have 10 days test period to decide if you keep the car or not.I will put along with the car :keys, title, all the receipts that I have from it, owner's manual,
service manual, and also a sale receipt signed at a legal attorney stating that i'm selling uoi this car.
5-If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance 1000$. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. Fortis Escrow will refund you the deposit.

So I will wait your full name so i can open a case with Fortis Escrow regarding this deal.

Regards

SILVAN

googled the escrow company and came up with this. Thank you. You saved us our money.

The same Martin F guy has been emailing me about the honda accord for 2800.00...he was talking about how he moved to the UK and he and his fiance sold their house here and they need to sell there car......im glas i stopped by here

Almost scammed! we were looking for a car on craigslist.com we found this toyota camry. I've posted his exact email back to us and it is identical to others posted on this site. But he gave us the vin number. Be careful everyone!!

Hello,

My name is Silvan Wiltord and i want to say Sorry for the delayed response, but I'm in Hartpool (United Kingdom) right now and I have been very busy.Anyway,thank you for your interest in buying the car. The car is located in US right now and has US papers.Why is the price so low? im selling the car at this price because i recently moved from US to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house over US and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .I cannot register the car here, as it is made for USA, according to USA standards. So all that I want to do now is to sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast.The title is clean and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States. I will tell you a few words about the car.. My 2002 TOYOTA CAMRY SE with automatic transmission it is in imaculate condition with 83440 miles and have the Vin number: jtdbf32k420005809,rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one.I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. The car is like new, in perfect conditions,accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. a genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.The price is 3,500 USD $ THIS IS MY LAST PRICE.I will not negociate the price.I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interesed in buying the car ,to be sure that I don't waist my time with endless discussions.This way,I shall be assured of the serious intentions.So if you are interested please email me back.

Regards!!

Silvan

Here is his last email.

Remember if it's too good to be true, then it probably is!

Hi again,
Thank you for email me back.The car is in a warehouse of Fortis Escrow in US ( in FORT MILLS SC), ready for delivery to a new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- I will need to send me your full legal name and shipping address.

2- This deal will go trough an Escrow company named FORTIS .You will be contacted by Fortis Escrow with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2500 in to an Fortis Escrow agent account.

4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 72 hours at your address.You will have 10 days test period to decide if you keep the car or not.I will put along with the car :keys, title, all the receipts that I have from it, owner's manual,
service manual, and also a sale receipt signed at a legal attorney stating that i'm selling uoi this car.
5-If you want to keep the car, you will pay me the remaining balance 1000$. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. Fortis Escrow will refund you the deposit.

So I will wait your full name so i can open a case with Fortis Escrow regarding this deal.

Regards

SILVAN

hi thank you another person here caught in the fortis escrow ring close but didnt fall for it when I asked for a vehicle history search no response same ol lines as everyone else, poor guys name is Martin Fergerson lives in hartpool uk. Agents name Angel Adnan CASE ID #440520080. Unbelievable thx ahgain for this site

MARK DERROM is also scamming on portland craiglist!

Hello,

My name is Mark Derrom and i want to say Sorry for the delayed response, but I'm in Hartpool (United Kingdom) right now and I have been very busy.Anyway,thank you for your interest in buying the car. The car is located in US right now and has US papers.Why is the price so low? im selling the car at this price because i recently moved from US to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house over US and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .I cannot register the car here, as it is made for USA, according to USA standards. So all that I want to do now is to sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast.The title is clean and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States. I will tell you a few words about the car.. My 2001 Lexus GS 300 with automatic transmission it is in imaculate condition with 79408 miles and have the Vin number: jt8bd69s510131767,rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one.I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. The car is like new, in perfect conditions,accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. a genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.The price is 2,700 USD $ THIS IS MY LAST PRICE.I will not negociate the price.I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interesed in buying the car ,to be sure that I don't waist my time with endless discussions.This way,I shall be assured of the serious intentions.So if you are interested please email me back.

Regards!!

Mark

BEWARE!!! MOBILE.DE

My friend found a car on www.mobile.de The name of a so called owner is Rita Geimer from London. But we live in Dublin, so she proposed to ship the car for inspection for 5 day trial. Then we recieved a confirmation letter on email that the shipping will start as soon as my friend will transfer E1000 (30% of the car's price) to the owner. Of course WESTERN UNION!!! Unfortunately 3 years ago exactly the same way I've lost E650. I "bought" Sony laptop on Ebay. Only that time my money was transferred to Rome :((( and no laptop of course. So this time when I saw a name of WESTERN UNION I knew it's a FAKE! My friend also was suspicious about sending money through WU,so thanks God, he didn't.
Here is a piece of information about the fake company,but,unfortunately it's not in English :)) In Spanish I suppose... but that's the only info I've found on Google search :
http://el4x4.forums.ylos.com/viewtopic.php?t=8332&sid=2ba92968d9c68fb0983da5d4b2007b8a

Good Luck!

Received the following response to my inquiry on a vehicle listed on CraigsList. Did research on escrow company, Simple Auto Trades, and could not find them to be legitimate. Their web address is listed below and has a very impressive appearance. Have not seen it on any previous postings, so thought I would make you aware of it as well.

Subject: Re: 2000 BMW_3-series 323i Automatic Transmission - $3500

Hello,

Thanks for getting back to me. I want you to know the car is in excellent condition with no rust or any kind of damage anywhere and it doesn't need any maintenance. The odometer shows 73,242 miles. The car gets 24/35 mpg. I can provide you an Autocheck report for the car. If you want to order one yourself here's the VIN# WBAAM3346YKC69130. Title is clear and free of liens. The 323i has an automatic transmission and it's very easy to drive even for a beginner.
My price is $3500. I have some personal problems at the moment and I need to sell the car as fast as possible because I need the money. That's my only reason for selling it otherwise I wouldn't do it.
The deal will be handled by Simple Auto Trades (www.simpatrades.com). They will handle the title and money transfer and deliver the car to your location. Currently the BMW is at their office. The best part about this is that you'll get 5 days money back guarantee. If at the end of those 5 days you decide not to keep it you'll get a full refund from them. If you want the BMW and if you have the money available all you have to do now is to register a free account with them and get back to me with the e-mail address you used. As soon as I hear that you registered I will initiate the transaction through them. The process is very simple and risk free for both of us.

All the pictures can be seen here: http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/luketh75/

Thank you,
Luke

Wow, thanks guys - you saved me!! Mark's apparently working NJ now with his listing through www.nj.com.

Here's a response I got today and then decided to google his name. Brought me to you guys. Thanks again.

Hello,

My name is Mark Derrom and i want to say Sorry for the delayed response, but I'm in Hartpool (United Kingdom) right now and I have been very busy.Anyway,thank you for your interest in buying the car. The car is located in US right now and.Why is the price so low? im selling the car at this price because i recently moved to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .I cannot register the car here. So all that I want to do now is to sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast.The title is clean and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States. I will tell you a few words about the car.. My 2002 TOYOTA CAMRY SE with automatic transmission it is in imaculate condition with 83440 miles and have the Vin number: jtdbf32k420005809,rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one.I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. The car is like new, in perfect conditions,accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. a genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.The price is 2,900 $ THIS IS MY LAST PRICE.I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interesed in buying the car ,to be sure that I don't waist my time with endless discussions.This way,I shall be assured of the serious intentions.So if you are interested please email me back.

Regards!!

Mark

Same scammers posting cars on Mlive.com and Lansing Craigslist.

Hello,

My name is Mark Derrom and i want to say Sorry for the delayed response, but I'm in Hartpool (United Kingdom) right now and I have been very busy.Anyway,thank you for your interest in buying the car. The car is located in US right now and.Why is the price so low? im selling the car at this price because i recently moved to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .I cannot register the car here. So all that I want to do now is to sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast.The title is clean and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States. I will tell you a few words about the car.. My 2002 TOYOTA CAMRY SE with automatic transmission it is in imaculate condition with 83440 miles and have the Vin number: jtdbf32k420005809,rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one.I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. The car is like new, in perfect conditions,accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. a genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.The price is 2,900 $ THIS IS MY LAST PRICE.I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interesed in buying the car ,to be sure that I don't waist my time with endless discussions.This way,I shall be assured of the serious intentions.So if you are interested please email me back.

Regards!!

Mark

Also:

Hello,

I`m Sgt. Ryan Evans. You have to know that the car I am selling is 100% working and great looking, no flaws or dents, no scratches or
any kind of damage. The title is clear. It has 76,900 miles. The VIN# is 3VWSC29M9XM060784. This vehicle engine runs very, very
smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty. This detailed vehicle makes the exterior looks like it just came off the assembly line.
Here are the pics of the car :
http://usera.imagecave.com/MyWhiteJetta/

As I know that my current situation is pretty special I want the deal closed only through eBay's Buyer Protection Program in order for you
to be 100% protected. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you
receive the car and inspect it (for 10 days) eBay will release the payment to me; in this way we are both protected. Anyway i am sure
that if you won`t be satisfied with the car i will surely find another buyer in your area and there will be no need for you to ship the car
back.
I am located in London, United Kingdom and I was sent here to improve the military relationships between our country and UK. One month
ago, my wife moved here with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States because In order to
be able to register this car here, I would have to pay very high import/custom taxes. My final price on it is $ 2900. If you will take it for
this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me
anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. You will receive the car in
about 3 days. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it
shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.

Thank you, and have a nice day,
Sgt. Ryan Evans

And another one, this one from Mlive.com, too. These people are reptiles.

Hi,
I'm Eric McGrew, you inquired about my 2005 Toyota Corolla S (VIN: 1NXBR32EX5Z373096).
I apologize for the delay, I'm in the military and now I am in United Kingdom and that's why I couldn't reply in time. If you are still interested in buying it, I'm asking $5,250. It has a clean title, very well maintained, always garage kept, no rust, excellent condition, runs and sounds 100% perfect with no leaks or noises. All power and optional equipments are working perfect. I have to sell this car as fast as I can because in three weeks I will be in Iraq and I think I'll stay there for a while that's why I'm selling it so cheap. I intend to buy a new car when I'll get back home.If you want to buy the car, I can ship for free within US with one of our military airplanes so you don't have to worry about the distance. If you are interested we can use a third party escrow broker (LitePay https://www.litepay.com/services.html) to secure the transaction and to handle this whole process for us. Using a reputable E-Commerce third party escrow company will secure the transaction and you will receive the car before I'll get paid and of course I'm also covered because the funds will be kept safety into the escrow account. This is the best way for me even if I'll have to pay some extra money for their services. I'll cover the broker's fee and like I've explained, the shipping will be free because I can use one of our airplanes here and I don't have to pay anything. Let me know if you are interested. You can see some pics on the following link from my personal page: http://picasaweb.google.com/emcg99/2005ToyotaCorollaS
You'll love the car, I can guarantee you that!

Thankfully I found this site before doing anything stupid!!!

I have been in contact with Mr. Mark Derrom about the same 2002 Toyota that was on mlive. What a scumbag. Does anyone know if there is a way to report these to authorities so others aren't scammed?

Here are the two emails that I received from him:

Hello,

My name is Mark Derrom and i want to say Sorry for the delayed response, but I'm in Hartpool (United Kingdom) right now and I have been very busy.Anyway,thank you for your interest in buying the car. The car is located in US right now and.Why is the price so low? im selling the car at this price because i recently moved to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .I cannot register the car here. So all that I want to do now is to sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast.The title is clean and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States. I will tell you a few words about the car.. My 2002 TOYOTA CAMRY SE with automatic transmission it is in imaculate condition with 83440 miles and have the Vin number: jtdbf32k420005809,rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one.I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. The car is like new, in perfect conditions,accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. a genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.The price is 2,900 $ THIS IS MY LAST PRICE.I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interesed in buying the car ,to be sure that I don't waist my time with endless discussions.This way,I shall be assured of the serious intentions.So if you are interested please email me back.

Regards!!

Mark

and...

Hi again,
Thank you for email me back and i'm very sorry for answer so late but i had problems with my email .The car is in a warehouse of WorldPay in US ( in FORT MILLS SC), ready for delivery to a new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- I will need to send me your full legal name and shipping address.

2- This deal will go trough an company named WorldPay.Inc .You will be contacted by WorldPay.Inc with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2900 in to an WorldPay.Inc agent account.
4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 72 hours at your address.You will have
10 days test period to decide if you keep the car or not.I will put along with the car :keys, title, all the receipts that I have from it, owner's manual,
service manual, and also a sale receipt signed at a legal attorney stating that i'm selling uoi this car.
5-If you want to keep the car, they will send me the money. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. WorldPay.Inc will refund you the deposit.

This deal is 100% legitimate,the financial part of this deal will be managed by WorldPay.Inc,in this way both of us will be protected.They will keep the payment until you receive the car and test it.

So I will wait your full name so i can open a case with WorldPay.Inc regarding this deal.

Regards

As you can see he is using a new company this time.

Thanks you for this site.

Dan

i just got the same email from LARRY about that same 2000 BMW:

Hello,

Thanks for replying to my ad. I want you to know the car is in excellent condition with no rust or any kind of damage anywhere and it doesn't need any maintenance. The odometer shows 74,800 miles. The car gets 23/34 mpg. I can provide you an Autocheck report for the car. If you want to order one yourself here's the VIN# WBAAM3346YKC69130. Title is clear and free of liens. This 2000 BMW 323i has an automatic transmission and it's very easy to drive even for a beginner.
My price is $3500. I have some personal problems at the moment and I need to sell the car as fast as possible because I need the money. That's my only reason for selling it otherwise I wouldn't do it.
The deal will be handled by Simple Auto Solutions (www.simpasolutions.com). They will handle the title and money transfer and deliver the car to your location. Currently the BMW is at their office. The best part about this is that you'll get 5 days money back guarantee. If at the end of those 5 days you decide not to keep it you'll get a full refund from them. If you want the BMW and if you have the money available all you have to do now is to register a free account with them and get back to me with the e-mail address you used. As soon as I hear that you registered I will initiate the transaction through them. The process is very simple and risk free for both of us.

All the pictures can be seen here: http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee176/Lgarner72/

Thank you,
Larry

TOTAL SCAM

PLEASE BE AWARE OF THIS LETTER. THE CAR ADVERTISEMENT IS FROM CRAIGSLIST. THE GUY CLAIMS HE IS FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS AND THE BUYER HAS TO PAY THE CAR THROUGH A COMPANY CALLED SIMPLE AUTO SOLUTIONS. HIS NAME IS LARRY GARNER. THIS IS A COMPLETELY A SCAM!!! BE AWARE OF IT!!! DON'T LET HIM STEAL ALL YOUR HARD WORKING MONEY.

Hello,

Thanks for replying to my ad. I want you to know the car is in excellent condition with no rust or any kind of damage anywhere and it doesn't need any maintenance. The odometer shows 74,800 miles. The car gets 23/34 mpg. I can provide you an Autocheck report for the car. If you want to order one yourself here's the VIN# WBAAM3346YKC69130. Title is clear and free of liens. This 2000 BMW 323i has an automatic transmission and it's very easy to drive even for a beginner.
My price is $3500. I have some personal problems at the moment and I need to sell the car as fast as possible because I need the money. That's my only reason for selling it otherwise I wouldn't do it.
The deal will be handled by Simple Auto Solutions (www.simpasolutions.com). They will handle the title and money transfer and deliver the car to your location. Currently the BMW is at their office. The best part about this is that you'll get 5 days money back guarantee. If at the end of those 5 days you decide not to keep it you'll get a full refund from them. If you want the BMW and if you have the money available all you have to do now is to register a free account with them and get back to me with the e-mail address you used. As soon as I hear that you registered I will initiate the transaction through them. The process is very simple and risk free for both of us.

All the pictures can be seen here: http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee176/Lgarner72/

Thank you,
Larry Garner
Houston, TX

a message for all you waste of skin thieves & crooks in this world... please just die.. you losers

Same as above but this time it was with "Vehicle-Sell-Web" Pathetic...

Hello,

Thanks for replying to my ad. I want you to know the car is in excellent condition with no rust or any kind of damage anywhere and it doesn't need any maintenance. The odometer shows 74,450 miles. The car gets 22/34 mpg. I can provide you an Autocheck report for the car. If you want to order one yourself here's the VIN# WBAAM3346YKC69130. Title is clear and free of liens. This 2000 BMW 323i has an automatic transmission and it's very easy to drive even for a beginner.
My price is $3500. I have some personal problems at the moment and I need to sell the car as fast as possible because I need the money. That's my only reason for selling it otherwise I wouldn't do it.
The deal will be handled by Vehicle Sell Web (www.vehicle-sell-web.com). They will handle the title and money transfer and deliver the car to your location. Currently the BMW is at their office. The best part about this is that you'll get 5 days money back guarantee. If at the end of those 5 days you decide not to keep it you'll get a full refund from them. If you want the BMW and if you have the money available all you have to do now is to register a free account with them and get back to me with the e-mail address you used. As soon as I hear that you registered I will initiate the transaction through them. The process is very simple and risk free for both of us.

All the pictures can be seen here: http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee73/bromike/

Thank you,
Mike

I had the same experience with the "mark derrom" character about the 2002 Camry. I was about to email him back with my information when my mom called the company I was supposed to work with and they told us it was a scam. Then I came on the internet to search his name and this is the site I was brought to. What a joke I was almost out $2900!

Apparently this Mark Derrom is still trying to do this scam in Birmingham, AL through al.com; Now he's changed his company name to WorldPay. Thank goodness we googled him before we did anything further. Here is what he's now sending us:

Hello,

My name is Mark Derrom and i want to say sorry for the delayed response, but I'm in Hartpool (United Kingdom) right now and I have been very busy.Anyway,thank you for your interest in buying the car. The car is located in US right now and has US papers.Why is the price so low? im selling the car at this price because i recently moved from US to United Kingdom with my wife who is from here and we intend to marry in United Kingdom and i sold my house over US and everything owned by me and the only thing to sell is the car .I cannot register the car here, as it is made for USA, according to USA standards. So all that I want to do now is to sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast.The title is clean and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States.
I will tell you a few words about the car:
2004 Honda Accord EX
Transmission: Automatic
Clear title
VIN#: 1HGCM56824A120668
Engine: 2.4L L4 PFI DOHC i-VTEC ( 27MPG City/34 Highway)
(Power Windows, Power Door Locks,Power Brakes,4 Speed Transmission, Cruise Control,Courtesy Lights,ABS (4-Wheel),Air Conditioning,Power Steering,brand new tires rust free , no schrach and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well.The interior looks great.This car needs nothing,.I want this transaction to go smoothly enough . The car is like new, in perfect conditions,accident free, no scratches, no special marks, no need for additional repairs what so ever. a genuine road runner ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.The price is 4,200 USD $ THIS IS MY LAST PRICE.I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interested in buying the car ,to be sure that I don't waist my time with endless discussions.This way,I shall be assured of the serious intentions.So if you are interested please email me back.

Regards!!

Mark

Hi again,
Thank you for email me back.The car is in a warehouse of WorldPay in US ( in FORT MILLS SC)and has 33495 miles, ready for delivery to a new buyer. If you are still interested continue this process here are the transaction's steps:
1- I will need to send me your full legal name and shipping address.

2- This deal will go trough an company named WorldPay.Inc .You will be contacted by WorldPay.Inc with all the details about the transaction.

3-You will make a deposit of $2800 in to an WorldPay.Inc agent account.
4-I will send you the car for inspection along with all the documents( title, a bill of sale). The car will arrive in 72 hours at your address.You will have
10 days test period to decide if you keep the car or not.I will put along with the car :keys, title, all the receipts that I have from it, owner's manual,service manual, and also a sale receipt signed at a legal attorney stating that i'm selling you this car.
5-If you want to keep the car, they will send me the money. If you don't want to keep it, you will send it back to me and i will support the shipping back fees. WorldPay.Inc will refund you the deposit.

This deal is 100% legitimate,the financial part of this deal will be managed by WorldPay.Inc,in this way both of us will be protected.They will keep the payment until you receive the car and test it.

So I will wait your full name so i can open a case with WorldPay.Inc regarding this deal.

Regards

HERE IS THE SCAM EMAIL - WATCH OUT!

Hello,

Thank you for replying so fast to my ad. I want you to know the car is in excellent condition with no rust or any kind of damage anywhere and it doesn't need any maintenance at all. The odometer shows 75,580 miles. The car gets 23/ 33 mpg. I can provide you an Autocheck report for the car. If you want to order one yourself here's the VIN# WBAAM3346YKC69130. Title is clear and free of liens. This 2000 BMW 323i has an automatic transmission and it's very easy to drive.
My price is $3500. I have some personal problems at the moment and I need to sell the car as fast as possible because I need the money. That's my only reason for selling it otherwise I wouldn't do it.
The deal will be handled by Perfect Auto Deals (www.perfectatrade.com). They will handle the title and money transfer and deliver the car to your location. Currently the BMW is at their office. The best part about this is that you'll get 5-days money back guarantee from them. If at the end of those 5 days you decide not to keep it you'll get a full refund from them. If you want the BMW and if you have the money available all you have to do now is to register a free account with them and get back to me with the e-mail address you used. As soon as I hear that you registered I will initiate the transaction through them. The process is very simple and risk free for both of us.
All the pictures can be seen here: http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/brca71/

Thank you,
David

WATCH OUT FOR THIS SCAM BY DAVID SILVER AND PERFECT AUTO TRADE ESCROW, WWW.PERFECTATRADE.COM I JUST HOPE YOU FOUND THIS WARNING BEFORE YOU GOT SCAMMED!!